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buddy bradley

Joined: 24 Aug 2003 Location: The Beyond
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:27 am Post subject: Bird Hunting In Korea |
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Has anyone gone bird-hunting on Cheju Island? I'm sure I saw an ad on Arirang TV where it showed that one can rent rifles and go shoot some birds.
I'm just curious if anyone has done this as it looks like a ton of fun. |
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tommynomad

Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Location: on the move
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Brace yourself for Rapier, Kermo and/or Gwangjuchicken in 5....4....3.... |
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burnin rubber
Joined: 16 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah, I'll get in on that one. I miss bird hunting back home. Even running around the neighborhood whacking chickens in the head with sticks was a blast. (Man, they have some thick skulls!) Be prepared to pay a lot though, I thought about shooting at Lotte World one time but the bullets are damned expensive. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:14 am Post subject: |
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It may surprise you to know that I am a former hunter myself, a poacher turned gamekeeper you could say....started with a catapult as a toddler, then graduated to air rifle as a teenager. (Nice try B.Bradley:)
It is only justified in traditional societies that live in balance with nature and have long depended on harvesting birds etc for their livelihood, or where the birds are shot for sport in a controlled quotas, where the habitat is protected.
The average macho man who just wants to kill something is an idiot...however, many such people actually start to appreciate what they are hunting and thereafter become enthusiastic conservationists.
And of course, due popularity of wildfowling in the U.S, large areas of habitat are set aside and protected. Likewise the Moorland/heaths that Grouse depend on rapidly vanished with the demise of shooting in N.England. Generally speaking, if you preserve the habitat, the wildlife will always be there.
Perversely, many people are against hunting per se, but happily welcome development that totally destroys the habitat and places where wild birds live.
Its a complex issue: it certainly shouldn't be allowed in somewhere like Korea where every last scrap of wetland is in the process of, or about to be trashed forever by careless development projects..not to mention that certain species are very sensitive to disturbance.
Nowadays I would never go hunting: and I hope people seek to protect nature & birds simply because they are an important and incredibly beautiful part of the web of life, the ecosystem. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:51 am Post subject: |
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At my high school in Bundang, we've got those big, ugly white/black birds that are nearly as big as crows.
Oh, how I'd love to shoot those things with my little single-shot 20 gauge from back home... fun, fun, fun!  |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
At my high school in Bundang, we've got those big, ugly white/black birds that are nearly as big as crows.
Oh, how I'd love to shoot those things with my little single-shot 20 gauge from back home... fun, fun, fun!  |
-they're magpies. Abundant birds..Pretty and charming in their way, they are indeed "overpopulated", and they do limit the numbers of songbirds by preying on the eggs and nestlings of other birds.
But remember, they're only a "pest" because of man. We have provided the ideal conditions for them to thrive in- a bit like some types of seagull or sparrows.
Also remember that the vast majority of bird species are in catastrophic decline due to mans alteration of the natural environment: the magpie is just one of very few that have prospered with the spread of urbanisation etc.
Of course its fun to hunt. We're natural hunters, and existed by doing so for millenia. But theres really no call for it any more...its the 21st century. You're better of devoting energy to protecting what is left of the natural world (not much).
Take your "hunting instincts" out on a computer game or whatever. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| The magpie is the national bird of Korea, hense it has been and always will be protected. Korea used to have some of the best small game hunting in the world, and probably still does in the more remote areas. Koje Island was (and maybe still is) excellent ringnecked pheasant country, as is the Haman Valley. |
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| So, as a vistor in this land, you think that you can feel free to shoot down any migratory bird that appears in your general direction? Do you have any sense of the fragile state of the wild bird population in this country? If you feel the need to kill something, join the seal hunt in eastern Canada, where sentient mammals are being clubbed to death as we speak. Or, go fishing. At least the quarry has a fighting chance. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| The ringnecked pheasant is not a migratoy bird. And if you are licensed to hunt, what is wrong with it? And maybe if you got out of the city you might just find that Korea isn't the industrial waste land you make it out to be. Only an urban soddomite would class what is done to baby seals a hunt or even compare it to wingshooting a pheasant. |
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The Bobster

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| W.T.Carl wrote: |
Korea used to have some of the best small game hunting in the world, and probably still does in the more remote areas.
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I've heard there's a lot of wildlife living in the DMZ - some people think there might be tigers. Tigers! Just a few hours away from Seoul ... for manliness, sure beats some dumb bird who can't hurt you back.
Be careful where you step, though. Landmines, you know. Heck, but that just makes it all that much more muy macho, eh?
So what are you waiting for?
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| The last tiger was killed in the 1920's. However, there were reports of snow leopard up along the Yalu river. I take it you have never been wingshooting? Don't knock it unless you have tried it. |
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The Bobster

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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| The last tiger was killed in the 1920's. However, there were reports of snow leopard up along the Yalu river. I take it you have never been wingshooting? Don't knock it unless you have tried it. |
About tigers and other fauna in the DMZ :
From Boingboing.
From [urlhttp://www.dmzforum.org/tigers.htm]DMZ Forum[/url]
From The Wall Street Journal (mirrored via DMZ Forum)
From National Geographic.
Anyway, Carl, can't you just wait to get out there and kill them? I'll bet you'd love that, right?
Hey, you know, I've heard that if you dry out the paws and genitals and sprinkle it into a soup it just might cure your flagging libido ... why not give it a try?
The only reason this stuff about tigers is the least bit relevant to the thread is this : killing birds who could never harm you simply for fun is about as cool as killing children, except that kids might possibly be more dangerous.
(I'd actually have some respect for a sportsman who killed a tiger, or any other animal that could have a halfway decent chance of inflicting similar harm on a person.) |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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GUNS GUNS GUNS! KILL KILL KILL!
KILL THE BIRDS, KILL THE BIRDS!
AHAHAHHHAHAHHHAHAHA!
There, I feel better now.
I hope one craps on your car. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| Why would I want to kill a tiger? Are they good to eat? I think not. However, if there were many in my area and they were eating my friends and their children, you bet I would. Wouldn't you? By the way, last night I helped a neighbor knock off a coyote that was raiding the area and killing small dogs, cats and the odd chicken. Anyway, what does killling tigers have to do with wingshoot pheasant, which by the way, are quite excellent to eat and not an endangered animal? |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Birds and wildlife everywhere are under severe threat now. We are rapidly losing the diversity, the wild places where they can live, because of mankinds destruction and alteration of the natural environment.
Hunting birds is a selfish and pretty unfulfilling hobby- when you could be getting much more enjoyment from working to try and protect our nature for future generations. Try it! |
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