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Never name a student "Jill"
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jajdude, I think �� means candy, but it has another meaning.
The person who called this mistake to my attention was a lady, so she wouldn't tell me what that other meaning is.
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Thomas



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomato wrote:
Jajdude, I think �� means candy, but it has another meaning.
The person who called this mistake to my attention was a lady, so she wouldn't tell me what that other meaning is.


If you add the command "eat" (mo-go) to it, it gets even worse... sort of like a "f-off"
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I have been told Koreans never actually say it. But it's used as the hangul subtitle translation on TV/movies. I wonder why. Maybe it's an old expression no longer in vogue? I have never heard koreans say it. And as you know the dirty slang is very common and easy to pick up. just like almost all Korean kids know "F......."
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Buff



Joined: 07 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomato wrote:
���� is a girl's name, so I wouldn't name a boy Eugene.
�� is a boy's name, so I wouldn't name a girl Jean.

Since �ظ� is a girl's name, I would be afraid to name a boy Harry.
Anyway, there is a boy named Harry in our school, and everyone is busy calling him Harry Potter.

I once had a girl named �ظ�, so I named her Harriet.
I once got in trouble for that, because �� is a naughty word.


Instead of Harriet, you could use Haley.
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Thomas



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
But I have been told Koreans never actually say it. But it's used as the hangul subtitle translation on TV/movies. I wonder why. Maybe it's an old expression no longer in vogue? I have never heard koreans say it. And as you know the dirty slang is very common and easy to pick up. just like almost all Korean kids know "F......."

I heard some older Koreans use it... but like you said, I imagine it's older slang that has relatively gone out of fashion... like "golly gee, horsefeathers, goshdarnit, and so on"
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About a year ago, there was a thread on the same subject:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=19103&highlight=
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eat Taffy!

I named a kid a longer form of a simpler name once, like Timothy or Benjamin or Johnathan or something. Forget the exact name. Similar reaction, the kid was in tears and finally a few months later someone tells me that the name is bad.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once named a girl "Yola" . I have no idea why it was so funny, but she insisted that I change it.

The thing was that all the other kids started calling her yoda?

I am just a clueless waygug-in after all.
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Ody



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we have a Jill.
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keithinkorea



Joined: 17 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
No boy wants to be "Mitch" either. Recently kids laughed reading the name "Mrs. Mitchell"


Yep I've had that one too, where a guy was called 'Mitchener' which sort of sounds like "��ģ" which is Korean for crazy.
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agraham



Joined: 19 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomato wrote:

Since �ظ� is a girl's name, I would be afraid to name a boy Harry.


I had a little guy named Harry. Sometimes I would absentmindedly say it with Korean pronunciation and he would earnestly correct me. Now I know why it was so important to him.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keithinkorea wrote:
jajdude wrote:
No boy wants to be "Mitch" either. Recently kids laughed reading the name "Mrs. Mitchell"


Yep I've had that one too, where a guy was called 'Mitchener' which sort of sounds like "��ģ" which is Korean for crazy.


I always point to my chin and say "me chin". I guess I'm teaching them poor English. But they think it's funny.
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keithinkorea



Joined: 17 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
keithinkorea wrote:
jajdude wrote:
No boy wants to be "Mitch" either. Recently kids laughed reading the name "Mrs. Mitchell"


Yep I've had that one too, where a guy was called 'Mitchener' which sort of sounds like "��ģ" which is Korean for crazy.


I always point to my chin and say "me chin". I guess I'm teaching them poor English. But they think it's funny.


There are a whole bunch of playing with words arsing about things you can do to entertain the kids. Someone before mentioned 'room nine', there is also 'rice five', 'chicken touch', with adult bilingual friends you can try out my favourite 'eighteenth century'. The last one is rather rude -or sounds a bit like it might be- don't say it to kids! You may get in trouble!

If anyone can add to the list it'll be cool. There are some 'serious scholars" of the Korean language on this board so they should be able to come up with some funny ones..

I like 'chicken touch' best because my students inspired by my 'rice 5' came up with it by themselves. Language learning should be fun. Teaching should be fun too. Heck life should be fun.
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jajdude



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One foreigner remembered "go straight" in Korean by touch his cheek and chin.
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:26 am    Post subject: Hi Teacher Jil Reply with quote

I am sure there must some ESL teacher's named Jil or Gill around. In Hong Kong I saw Chinese girls who named themselves Fanny and you know what that means to the Brits. Hong Kong was a British colony.

But really, we have men called Dick.
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