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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| I worked at an all girls highschool way back in 97' and I had open policy of letting the girls go to the barthroom without asking. If felt they were taking advantage of the policy they wouldn't be allowed to go with out asking. Worked faily well, but with some problems. I did it because it made my life easier. |
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ulsanchris
Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: take a wild guess
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:19 am Post subject: |
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I hate letting students go to the bathroom during class because the second you let one go two or three will want to go to. I can only think of one or two times when a girl asked if she could go to the bathroom when she had her period. There tends to be a greater sense of urgency and a real pleading look in a girls eye when she has to deal with the flow.
Of course I wouldn't let her go.
joking I always let them go if I suspect they are having their periods. The one or two boys want to go. Of course I tell them no and I have listen to their whinny voices. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| ulsanchris wrote: |
I hate letting students go to the bathroom during class because the second you let one go two or three will want to go to. I can only think of one or two times when a girl asked if she could go to the bathroom when she had her period. There tends to be a greater sense of urgency and a real pleading look in a girls eye when she has to deal with the flow.
Of course I wouldn't let her go.
joking I always let them go if I suspect they are having their periods. The one or two boys want to go. Of course I tell them no and I have listen to their whinny voices. |
And almost invariably the ones who are whining to go to the washroom or get water run right past both in their eagerness to get the hell out of there once they hear the buzzer. I even stopped one girl once and told her to go get a drink before she left. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:15 am Post subject: |
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I remember my grade 2 teacher, Mrs Wilton, a stern old crone with a bell on her desk to get attention. Her deal for letting us go to the washroom was we put up our hands with either one or two fingers raised to indicate we had to do number 1 or number 2. Nice.
(Does that make sense to other westerners or were those regional euphemisms for peeing & taking a dump?) |
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Thomas
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| PolyChronic Time Girl wrote: |
I let my students go to the bathroom, but only one at a time. That is why I made one wooden bathroom pass ( I know...a little old-fashioned) but it works. I don't mind students going to the bathroom, as long as they ask and take the wooden pass. Only having one student go at a time has never given me problems with ditching class or anything. They usually return within a few minutes.
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Nice...
With my (US) students, I had the same problems, namely students interupting class to go to the bathroom and such. For my students, they just write their name on a piece of paper, put it on my desk and walk out silently. They have to follow the ground rules : "Only one person out at a time, only 3 passes per 10 weeks, on movie days can only gfo in the first 10 minutes, and abuse of this privilege will result in losing it."
At the end of class, I put a check mark next to the student's name in my grade book. This way, class doesn't get interupted and I can control the abuses (a quick discussion or call can fix the ones that go "too" often). In 3 years of doing this, I've had only a handful of students who needed an "extra" day (no problem) and class disturbances are no problem. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thomas, that's a great idea, but I have so many students, it seems impossible to remember their names!
And the wooden pass idea was something I always had at school, growing up. Ours was shaped like a lolly-pop.
My girls would probably all take turns going to the restroom, just so they could say they carried the thing.  |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, hey... one more question for the ladies:
How do you figure these girls deal with that "special moment" when they have important tests? We were told during one national test last year, "If a student must leave the room, they cannot be allowed back in."
So do all of the girls expecting that "it" might happen that day, "stuff it" just in case?  |
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PolyChronic Time Girl

Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Location: Korea Exited
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
Oh, hey... one more question for the ladies:
How do you figure these girls deal with that "special moment" when they have important tests? We were told during one national test last year, "If a student must leave the room, they cannot be allowed back in."
So do all of the girls expecting that "it" might happen that day, "stuff it" just in case?  |
Some women have a cycle that runs like clockwork and can pretty much pinpoint the exact day she will start, so it's easier to be prepared. However, there are many women who are irregular and it comes unexpectedly and they often run into "accidents" because she was unprepared for that glorious monthly moment of womanhood  |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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You know.. that's what happened to me when I was 12 or so... I was in an exam.. I wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom but didn't actually know that it was coming... so I sat there and finished the exam and when I walked to give the papers in, everyone laughed.. then a friend pulled me aside and walked me to the bathroom quickly. I had a huge red patch on the back of my pale blue skirt. I was the laugh of the week.
Since then, I use pantyliners. |
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PolyChronic Time Girl

Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Location: Korea Exited
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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You know.. that's what happened to me when I was 12 or so... I was in an exam.. I wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom but didn't actually know that it was coming... so I sat there and finished the exam and when I walked to give the papers in, everyone laughed.. then a friend pulled me aside and walked me to the bathroom quickly. I had a huge red patch on the back of my pale blue skirt. I was the laugh of the week.
Since then, I use pantyliners. |
Wow, tzechuk, same thing happened to me, right down to me wearing a pale blue skirt when I was 12-years old...during a math exam. Except ridicule persisted for the rest of the year I even had a nickname, which I'm too traumatized to tell... |
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pet lover
Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Location: not in Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, there is a reason I will never wear white shorts again. I got branded with the big red stain on the back of my white shorts during sixth grade. This happened on the same day that we got our "health" education so the boys definitely knew why I had that huge red mark. Panti-liner? Wish that would work for me. I gush. Luckily for me, my body is finally going like clockwork: every 15 to 30 days.  |
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pollyplummer

Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Location: McMinnvillve, Oregon
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 9:13 pm Post subject: period |
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Clockwork right here. I start at 5 a.m. the exact day I'm supposed to. However, teenage years are crazy- most girls are not at all regular and their predictive/judgment centers of the brain are not fully developed, either, so they have a difficult time gaging that kind of thing. I work at a public high school, and I'm very permissive. This may not work for you, but I let them come and go to the bathroom as they please. They don't even ask me. Nobody seems to abuse it, because I dont make a big deal out of it. Drawing attention to rules causes more rule-breaking... it's kind of a spiritual/psychological principle, I believe. I have over 500 students that I see. If most of them are in their chairs when I come to teach class, I dont even worry about it. If one leaves during class and doesnt come back for 10 minutes, oh well. There are tooo many of them to keep track of on an individual basis. If most of them are there and I'm teaching, I dont worry about anything else. It would be too much of a hassle. I give my attention to the students who want to learn, try to push the lazy ones a bit, and call it a day.  |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: period |
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| pollyplummer wrote: |
Clockwork right here. I start at 5 a.m. the exact day I'm supposed to. However, teenage years are crazy- most girls are not at all regular and their predictive/judgment centers of the brain are not fully developed, either, so they have a difficult time gaging that kind of thing. I work at a public high school, and I'm very permissive. This may not work for you, but I let them come and go to the bathroom as they please. They don't even ask me. Nobody seems to abuse it, because I dont make a big deal out of it. Drawing attention to rules causes more rule-breaking... it's kind of a spiritual/psychological principle, I believe. I have over 500 students that I see. If most of them are in their chairs when I come to teach class, I dont even worry about it. If one leaves during class and doesnt come back for 10 minutes, oh well. There are tooo many of them to keep track of on an individual basis. If most of them are there and I'm teaching, I dont worry about anything else. It would be too much of a hassle. I give my attention to the students who want to learn, try to push the lazy ones a bit, and call it a day.  |
We tried the 'come and go as you please' thing too. I rather enjoyed that, until some students got caught hiding out in their classroom and horsing around (we teach the English class in labs). Apparently, they had skipped out on one of the other foreign teacher's classes, and were busted by another teacher. It was a little embarrasing for that teacher. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: period |
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| pollyplummer wrote: |
Clockwork right here. I start at 5 a.m. the exact day I'm supposed to. However, teenage years are crazy- most girls are not at all regular and their predictive/judgment centers of the brain are not fully developed, either, so they have a difficult time gaging that kind of thing. I work at a public high school, and I'm very permissive. This may not work for you, but I let them come and go to the bathroom as they please. They don't even ask me. Nobody seems to abuse it, because I dont make a big deal out of it. Drawing attention to rules causes more rule-breaking... it's kind of a spiritual/psychological principle, I believe. I have over 500 students that I see. If most of them are in their chairs when I come to teach class, I dont even worry about it. If one leaves during class and doesnt come back for 10 minutes, oh well. There are tooo many of them to keep track of on an individual basis. If most of them are there and I'm teaching, I dont worry about anything else. It would be too much of a hassle. I give my attention to the students who want to learn, try to push the lazy ones a bit, and call it a day.  |
We tried the 'come and go as you please' thing too. I rather enjoyed that, until some students got caught hiding out in their classroom and horsing around (we teach the English class in labs). Apparently, they had skipped out on one of the other foreign teacher's classes, and were busted by another teacher. It was a little embarrasing for that teacher. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: period |
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| pollyplummer wrote: |
Clockwork right here. I start at 5 a.m. the exact day I'm supposed to. However, teenage years are crazy- most girls are not at all regular and their predictive/judgment centers of the brain are not fully developed, either, so they have a difficult time gaging that kind of thing. I work at a public high school, and I'm very permissive. This may not work for you, but I let them come and go to the bathroom as they please. They don't even ask me. Nobody seems to abuse it, because I dont make a big deal out of it. Drawing attention to rules causes more rule-breaking... it's kind of a spiritual/psychological principle, I believe. I have over 500 students that I see. If most of them are in their chairs when I come to teach class, I dont even worry about it. If one leaves during class and doesnt come back for 10 minutes, oh well. There are tooo many of them to keep track of on an individual basis. If most of them are there and I'm teaching, I dont worry about anything else. It would be too much of a hassle. I give my attention to the students who want to learn, try to push the lazy ones a bit, and call it a day.  |
We tried the 'come and go as you please' thing too. I rather enjoyed that, until some students got caught hiding out in their classroom and horsing around (we teach the English class in labs). Apparently, they had skipped out on one of the other foreign teacher's classes, and were busted by another teacher. It was a little embarrasing for that teacher. |
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