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pocariboy73



Joined: 23 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:16 pm    Post subject: Teaching privates while married Reply with quote

Is it legal for a foreigner with an F1 visa to teach privates if he/she is married to a korean?
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching privates while married Reply with quote

pocariboy73 wrote:
Is it legal for a foreigner with an F1 visa to teach privates if he/she is married to a korean?


yes... its illegal! you dont pay tax! thats why its illegal!
but... if you got caught! you wouldnt be deported! becuase you have a F1
BUT you will be fined!! and warned! repeated offences might get you in hot water.. but you are pretty sweet..
E2, F1, D8, C3, what ever you got.. its illegal!
JUST DONT GET CAUGHT!!!
with an F1 its kinda a get out of jail free card...
but you still PAY THE PIPER!!
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clear this one up for me...

F1 = marriage visa
F2 = gyopo visa?

What's this I've heard about certain F-type visas not getting approved the next year around, if you get busted?
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Daechidong Waygookin



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
Clear this one up for me...

F1 = marriage visa
F2 = gyopo visa?

What's this I've heard about certain F-type visas not getting approved the next year around, if you get busted?


The marriage visa is the F2 visa.
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bossaco



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Location: jongro-gu

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have an F2 visa since my husband is korean... but i understand that there are some foreign spouses who are granted the F1 visa instead... what's the difference?

anyway, if you want to tutor legally then you should go to the city hall and apply for a permit...
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bossaco wrote:
i have an F2 visa since my husband is korean... but i understand that there are some foreign spouses who are granted the F1 visa instead... what's the difference?

anyway, if you want to tutor legally then you should go to the city hall and apply for a permit...


Do you have to have something other than an E-2 to apply for that permit?
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you mind telling me the hours you are generally out of the house teaching privates, your address and your wife's first name, please? I understand her privates are out of control.
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
Would you mind telling me the hours you are generally out of the house teaching privates, your address and your wife's first name, please? I understand her privates are out of control.


POTYC!
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cellphone



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbert wrote:

POTYC!


Count me in!
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Homer
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privates = illegal.

Simple formula no matter what letter of the alphabet your work visa starts with.

A simple question of not paying taxes on your income...and you know most governments on the planet have this thing about people paying income tax...its been around for a while too...look it up. Wink Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Privates = illegal.

Simple formula no matter what letter of the alphabet your work visa starts with.

A simple question of not paying taxes on your income...and you know most governments on the planet have this thing about people paying income tax...its been around for a while too...look it up. Wink Laughing Laughing Laughing


There is such a thing as being willing to pay taxes on private tutoring, apparently. I'd rather hear about that than about the reasons why it's illegal. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok zyf.

If you pay tax on your income as a pvt tutor then they should be legal. This means you need to keep receipts from the students and file a tax return yourself. Then you would need to pay what you owe at the end of the year.

This would be hard to apply as teachers come here for a year or less. If you teach pvts and are a foreigner, it means you could leave at any time and screw the government out of the taxes you would owe.

I can see why any government would be wary about opening this can of worms.

Also, as a pvt teacher, the question of qualifications comes into play. How do you regulate pvt lessons and avoid a bunch of shylocks with no qualification from representing themselves falsely to their students just to make a buck?

This is a tough question.

Would you also require a pvt tutor visa?

Who would sponsor such a visa?

There is one big can of wiggly worms my friend.

In the end, it usually boils down to teachers looking for a fast buck by teaching pvts and not paying tax.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbert wrote:
Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
Would you mind telling me the hours you are generally out of the house teaching privates, your address and your wife's first name, please? I understand her privates are out of control.


POTYC!


I keep seeing this topic on the board, and for some reason, at a quick glance, it looks like, "Touching Privates While Married."

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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Ok zyf.

If you pay tax on your income as a pvt tutor then they should be legal. This means you need to keep receipts from the students and file a tax return yourself. Then you would need to pay what you owe at the end of the year.

This would be hard to apply as teachers come here for a year or less. If you teach pvts and are a foreigner, it means you could leave at any time and screw the government out of the taxes you would owe.

I can see why any government would be wary about opening this can of worms.

Also, as a pvt teacher, the question of qualifications comes into play. How do you regulate pvt lessons and avoid a bunch of shylocks with no qualification from representing themselves falsely to their students just to make a buck?

This is a tough question.

Would you also require a pvt tutor visa?

Who would sponsor such a visa?

There is one big can of wiggly worms my friend.

In the end, it usually boils down to teachers looking for a fast buck by teaching pvts and not paying tax.


That's all understandable, and from knowledge about working under the table back home, the same issues and legality sentiments apply, even for citizens of the country. But I'm definitely not just here for a quick breeze through Korea purely for cash at this stage, and I'm definitely trying to be proactive here as a boyfriend considering tying the knot in a country where an unmarried guy simply can't accomplish very much. None of this expressly applies to Korea, but if there is the possibility of doing everything over the table, I would take the extra time and effort to make something out of it.

That's why I'm curious about what the other poster mentioned. I live in an area that's very convenient for tutoring students if I advertised, but I'm not willing to do it, due to the repercussions. Even better is the fact that my girlfriend actually finds it strange that I'm unwilling to do some tutoring. She's prompted me to do it on several occasions...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see your point Zyf and rest assured that I was not singling you out in my previous response.

I do understand the pvt tutoring question and my wife also mentioned I could do some before. That was a few years ago and since then I no longer want or need to do so as my job is great and I also do consulting for companies part time.
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