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Public Expression of Religious Beliefs
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

riverboy wrote:
As opposed to Hindus and Buddhists? As opposed to Christians and Muslims(crusades)? As opposed to Christians and Christains (reformation)? Every religion becomes repressive as soon as it becomes dogmatic.


So why don't we hear more about Buddhism fundamentalist terrorists? This type of thinking is akin to saying blacks aren't prone to crime, despite the statistics proving otherwise.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Public Expression of Religious Beliefs Reply with quote

TECO wrote:
I'm curious how people here feel about the public expression of religous beleifs?

I've noticed recently that a few athletes have thanked "Jesus Christ" for getting a 3rd place and giving them '*beep*' equipment, etc.

So, is it appropriate to share these views in public?

I work with another teacher who does a lot to encourage the students to accept Jesus and hands out little hockey-card sized cards with biblical phrases and info on them.


Interesting.

i was just responding to this on another thread. There's in fact a group of Korean students babbling & wailing out on the gronds of my University most mornings as i make my way to work Rolling Eyes

Your mention of sports figures etc reminded me of the Korean ntional soccer coach least year who dropped to his knees & started praying ( presumably thanking God for the teams's win ).

At the time, one of the things i thought to myself was: "So what does he do when they lose ???"

While on the one hand, i believe we essentially "LIVE" our religions ( i.e. as are embodied within our thoughts, words & deeds ) i also agree with the sentiment that our formal religious beliefs should not be trumpeted or put on display for the masses.

As with a lot of things in life, discretion often speaks the loudest.

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him."

( Matthew 6:5-8 )
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree.

I noticed last week that there was a small Bible on the table in one of the classrooms we share. Shocked
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO wrote:
I agree.

I noticed last week that there was a small Bible on the table in one of the classrooms we share. Shocked


Yet that's subtle, & still basically respects your general being. I don't quite see how that simply in itself should be perceived as threatening or offensive. Are you feeling any pressure to conform or submit to their line of thinking, words or actions ???

No, i don't see anything wrong with simply having books on one's desk, or for that matter engaging in the occasional discussion with co-workers & the like, provided we don't have a predetermined agenda, other than to improve our general understanding. I'll acknowledge it can be problematic mind you, & is best approached with both skill & subtlety.

Just out of curiosity, RU comfortable with generally philosophical / quasi-spiritual discussions ???

On a related note, i've heard stories of hagwon directors in Korean who have the following questions:

Question #1: Are you Christian ???
A: Yes ( leads to question 2 )
A: No = goodbye.

Question #2: Do you go to church ???
A: Yes ( leads to questions 3 )
A: No = goodbye.

Question #3: Will you go to MY church ???
A: Yes ( Praise God !!! You're hired )
A: No = goodbye.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, I don't talk about things like that with people.

U.S., Chinese/Taiwanese/Japanese politics - don't discuss these with people at work either.

I don't discuss sexual preferences either.

It's work, so I try not to bring up any controversial issues with people.
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Good OP!

Question about tolerance...

I wished someone a Merry Christmas and gave them a generic seasonal holiday coffee mug. He became offended and corrected me. I think he was wrong. I think he was just a bitter homosexual. He looked like Big Gay Al but much less cheery. I bought 16 of these mugs at $2 a piece and gave them to my coworkers. He being one of them.

Should he have cussed me out or welcomed my holiday cheer? I really try to be nice at Christmas. Why crap on it?
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The Great Toad



Joined: 12 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buddhism mmm how come a nation of these guys who will harm no living thing decided Pol Pot was right joined his army and slaughtered their own people...Spain how could the Catholics kill / torture all those Moors and Jews Islam .... bla bla bla

Anyhow it all comes down to people if you look at them you see how they fail- therefore each man must seek the truth. Find the Way. it is simple to point to where men fail... Why even I have acted selfishly on the rare occasion. There are obly a few perfect men left in the world: Bill Clinton, Benny Hinn, Robert Tilton, John Travolta, and David Beckham - if you duplicate your life off of these men you will gain eternal life. NOTTTT!
Actually Benny Hinn and Robert Tilton are two of my favorite hair king comedians... I should reorder The Door...

Anyhow a lot of times people get pissed off about preachers cuz they like to live their lives their own way even if deep down inside they know they are vapid selfish pleasure seekers. Not me errr ok chocolate and honey lusting is not so bad. Pooh is a sort of unfallen Godman anyway.
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