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Daechidong Waygookin · Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject:

I see no contradiction and no reason for confusion.

Privates are illegal. I am against anyone, rich or poor, going to illegal measures to gain an advantage.

In the Uri pary thread I bashed Communism, not socialism per se. I bashed Uri not on their social policies but their dangerous foregn policy towards North Korea.

Really, no reason for confusion.

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really, any teacher that teaches in a hagwon is giving some kids an advantage over kids who don't have as much money (hence the push for teachers in public schools).

I've never seeked out privates, but I've built up a reputation and could probably teach 100 hours a week if I wanted (but I think it's more fun to go on weekend road trips and have a life). However, the people I know looking for privates are business men who want their lessons to be directed at their specific needs (which they don't get in most classes) and children of parents who dislike hagwons and feel they get more bang for their buck through a private tutor.

Having educated and responsible teachers teaching privates isn't the problem.

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Daechidong Waygookin · Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject:

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lastat06513 · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:14 am Post subject:

Ok, so does anyone have any idea how this crackdown going to work?
Are they going to go through everyone's documents or something?
What exactly are they going to do?
I think instead of feeding people's fears and gloating over your assumes "impunity", I think some kind of info would do much better.

mithridates · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:26 am Post subject:

Joo:
Well, that's true too. That was the most valid argument against privates, but my personal opinion is much different.

IMO it's the height of arrogance to think that a language can only be taught by people from seven countries, and that it's an utter contradiction to try to promote English as a 'world language' at the same time. I think languages should be taught by whomever can teach them for the price the students are willing to pay. Indians, Bangladeshi, Germans, whoever - if they know the language and can teach it then they should be able to make money off of it. Teaching a language isn't like being a doctor either - I see a lot of comparisons with 'well, what if anybody could practice medicine?' which is totally different.
The atmosphere is all wrong. Languages are supposed to be used to unite people and to help them get along - they aren't limited to classrooms run by directors through teachers from one of seven chosen countries under 1-year contracts. Nobody stresses that languages aren't subjects. They aren't subjects like science and math, and there is a point you reach where you don't have to work at them anymore. Science, math, history and whatnot are endless, but languages have a definate goal, an ending, after which you don't have to give it much effort anymore. Nobody stresses that in any hagwon.

Linguistics is different, of course.

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daechi - you have serious issues man..

privates are illegal and thats that right?!!

yeah well IM happy you do your part for the greater good of man kind by not breaking any laws.. mean while everyday I am surrounded by people breaking laws everyday!!!!
EVERYDAY!!
this is korea buddy! I think you had better look out your small rat box apartment building window -if you have a view or are you in the basement! anyway,.. when in korea! do as the koreans do!
isnt that right?
I mean its illegal for koreans to teach privates but they do..

for god sake! its illegal for CAB drivers to not take you! BUT THEY DO!
its illegal to have a pojungmacha on the street corner but they are there!
WITH POLCIEMAN or government officals in there drinking!

redlight districts are illegal! but they are there in plain view for the world to see!!

privates are illegal as much as JAY WALKING IS!
its illegal- but doesnt mean nothing until you get caught!

Homer · Guest

It is all very simple really.

Privates are illegal because they mean a teacher is earning income and not paying tax on it.
This is illegal in most countries because governments tend to dislike people working and not paying taxes.

There are also other problems with pvt lessons, namely the complete lack of verification and regulation. This can end up hurting the students and by extension other teachers.

Finally, this crackdown will not mean as the OP suggested that teachers doing only pvts will be immune. That was a laughable thing to say. They (immigration) do bust teachers running only on pvts. You are not invisible because you teach only pvts. In fact, you become more suspicious to them. How are you paying your rent? What do you live on? Where are you earning your income? and so on...