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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| why do you think he's gay? From the photo? Perhaps it is quite innocent. I know a lot of North African guys who hang around Itaewon, and it's normal for men to hold hands in their culture, apparently. It's the same in China too. The Chinese teachers used to hold hands with one of the male native teachers, and he used to tolerate it because he didn't want to offend. |
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trevorcollins
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Is Dubya the first gay president? |
Didn't Abe Lincoln live with his gay lover for seven years or something....? |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Jezuz, give the guy a break. He's trying to be culturally sensitive.
Of course he was a male cheerleader. Hmmmm.
And it was Buchanon, not Lincoln. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Lincoln did sleep in a bed with another guy, but in those days every traveller did. So probably nothing to that one.
But do tell about Buchanan. I've never heard any rumors about him. |
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trevorcollins
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| gypsyfish wrote: |
| And it was Buchanon, not Lincoln. |
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| In Mrs. Lincoln's absence, the president would sleep, share nightshirts, and conduct an "intimacy" with David Derickson, who was captain of Lincoln's bodyguard Company K. |
That's from a Discovery Channel book review.
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20041206/lincoln.html |
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The Man known as The Man

Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| He's as GAY as Bill Clinton |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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According to James Loewen in Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong he was.
In life, Buchanan was not very far in the closet. For many years in Washington, he lived with William Rufus King, Senator from Alabama. The two men were inseparable; wags referred to them as "the Siamese twins." Andrew Jackson dubbed King "Miss Nancy," and Aaron Brown, a prominent Democrat, writing to Mrs. James K. Polk, referred to him as Buchanan's "better half," "his wife," and "Aunt Fancy . . . rigged out in her best clothes." When in 1844 King was appointed minister to France, he wrote Buchanan, "I am selfish enough to hope you will not be able to procure an associate who will cause you to feel no regret at our separation." On May 13, Buchanan wrote to a Mrs. Roosevelt about his social life:
I am now "solitary and alone," having no companion in the house with me. I have gone a wooing to several gentlemen, but have not succeeded with any one of them. I feel that it is not good for man to be alone; and should not be astonished to find myself married to some old maid who can nurse me when I am sick, provide good dinners for me when I am well, and not expect from me any very ardent or romantic affection.
King and Buchanan's relationship, though interrupted from time to time by their foreign service, ended only with King's death in 1853. While Buchanan was born and raised in Pennsylvania, William Rufus King was a Southern slaveholder. Buchanan's pro-slavery politics may have stemmed in part from their 23-year connection. Buchanan certainly thought highly of King: "He is among the best, purest, and most consistent public men I have ever known, and is also a sound judging and discreet fellow," as well as a "very gay, elegant looking fellow."
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/2458
Not that there's anything wrong with it. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| gypsyfish wrote: |
Jezuz, give the guy a break. He's trying to be culturally sensitive.
Of course he was a male cheerleader. Hmmmm. |
I realize the picture is a little misleading given the cultural "sensitivity" the governor was likely trying to demonstrate. That aside, here's ANOTHER male "cheer"-leader for y'all.
What d'ya know. He too is staunchly Republican ( a real man's man ) & outspokenly "anti-gay"; just like Bush.
Wash. mayor under fire for gay sex chats
Tom Musbach, PlanetOut Network
Thu May 5, 8:48 PM ET
After a lengthy investigation, a newspaper in Spokane, Wash., revealed that the city's conservative Republican mayor -- a gay rights opponent -- used a gay Web site to meet young men. He initiated sex with at least one young man and offered a City Hall internship to another.
According to the Spokane-Review, Mayor Jim West, who fought pro-gay legislation during his two decades of service in the state Legislature, met a local 18-year-old man in a Gay.com chat room last summer. The two met for dinner and then engaged in consensual sex.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/po/washmayorunderfireforgaysexchats
There's a related story floating around out there dealing with how as a Boy Scout leader back in the 70's he was diddling his little troopers. The alleged victims apparently now have criminal records because of drug related charges.
Hmmmm ... |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 3:07 am Post subject: |
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I saw this last night. What a hypocritical jerk. (Plus I don't like his politics.)
It's nice to see karma work. |
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| No way he's gay. A gay man would know how to pronounce 'nuclear'. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Interesting stuff about Buchanan and Lincoln, but I think I'll wait till I see it on Hard Copy. Then I'll know it's true. |
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gypsyfish
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| No way he's gay. A gay man would know how to pronounce 'nuclear'. |
Did any of you see Laura Bush at the White House Correspondents dinner last week. It's kind of a roast. Usually, the president speaks, but this time she did and was quite funny. One of the points she made was that she knows how to pronounce nuclear.
Here's a link:
http://treyjackson.typepad.com/junction/2005/04/video_president_1.html |
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| While she shouldn't give up her day job and hit the comedy circuit, Laura did score a couple of decent zingers. The 'desperate housewives' quote was cute. But I don't see anyone lining up, even Slick Willy, to take a run at Laura. |
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igotthisguitar

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Bush Bisexuality Asserted In Scorching New Book
By Sherman H. Skolnick
www.skolnicksreport.com
9-7-4
Just published "THE FAMILY - The Real Story of the Bush Dynstasty", by veteran highly controversial author, Kitty Kelley. According to book industry sources, the publisher intends to issue and market one million copies of this book that is the lowdown of the Bushies.
The book details a number of stories long-since posted and archived, and publicly discussed by us on www.skolnicksreport.com and www.cloakanddagger.ca including stories co-authored by Sherman H. Skolnick and Lenny Bloom, as Middle-Finger News.
Also posted and archived through
www.rense.com/Datapages/skolnickdatapage.html
Also widely discussed on radio talk shows by Skolnick and also jointly with co-host Lenny Bloom on internet radio worldwide www.cloakanddagger.ca as well as by Skolnick on numerous other radio talk shows U.S., Canada, Australia, and Europe, over the last five years and more.
Mentioned in Kitty Kelley's book following the already publicized independent investigations of Skolnick and his colleagues:
=== That George W. Bush cohabited at his Texas ranch and elsewhere with the Mayor of a major city in Tennessee, says Kitty Kelley.
Skolnick began the discussion severel years ago as a story about "The Pedophile/Homosexual Underground".
www.skolnicksreport.com "Overthrow of the American Republic", Part 24.
It relates to George W. Bush's homosexual relationship, since about puberty, with Victor Ashe, long-time Mayor of Knoxvillle. When some in Congress began inquiries in the fall of 2003, Ashe in December, 2003, gave up being Knoxville Mayor and was appointed by George W. Bush, the occupant and resident of the White House, as the U.S. Ambassador to Poland. That is, getting Ashe out of the U.S. jurisdiction, not available to nosey Congressmen.
Bush and Ashe are both members of the satanic cult, "Skull & Bones", headquartered in a windowless building called "The Tomb" on the campus of Yale University. Part of the initiation procedure is for the new proposed member to divulge his entire sexual history, to several other Bonesmen, so that when he is shoved up into high office, government, finance, etc., he can be blackmailed into silence. The new member has to cavort, au naturel, sometimes more than once, with another Bonesman in a double-size coffin filled with mud.
An older Bonesman member has to also participate in such proceedings. This was done by John F. Kerry slightly older than George W. Bush.
As mentioned in our stories and talk shows, the secret pictures of this, reportedly ended up in the possession of the picture editor of a group of magazines run by American Media, Inc., AMI, headquartered in Boca Raton, Florida. That editor was Bob Stevens. Being of near-sighted vision, he took off his glasses and he opened up an envelope addressed to him, holding it close up to his face, breathing thus in spores of anthrax, from which he soon thereafter died.
In his public statements, Skolnick carefully discussed that he usually does not discuss sordid relations EXCEPT if they involved National Security. In the Ashe/Bush matter, the Red Chinese Secret Police have used their knowledge of the matter to blackmail out of the Bush White House, U.S. MILITARY, financial, and industrial secrets, clearly warranting us publicizing the Ashe/Bush matter. Further, Skolnick contended that Ashe and Bush met for sex at a Tennessee location owned by the purported top financier of Osama bin Laden. That U.S. resident moneybags has been granted unlawful protection and immunity from exposure by the Bush White House.
The more than 500 that worked at AMI were evacuated, the building was closed up by America's secret political police, about October 2001, shortly after the 9-11 incidents. The FBI did not permit any of the picture or text files to be removed. Stevens' widow, in a little-known lawsuit against the FBI, claimed the Bureau obstructed her from finding out what happened to her husband.
Rudolph Guiliani, once U.S. District Attorney in New York, later Mayor of New York City, founded and owns BioOne, specializing in cleaning up places made toxic by anthrax. He bought the closed AMI building for a "song" and now has possession of the pictures that could scandalize his pal George W. Bush, and Bush's male sex-mate, U.S. Senator John F. Kerry, "laying down and playing dead" while supposedly running for president against 3rd cousin and fellow Bonesman George W. Bush.
In her book, Kitty Kelley claims that, from her sources, Bush, facing embarrassment by the possible revelations of the pictures, arranged for secret U.S. agents to murder Bob Stevens. |
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