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Homer
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JongnoGuru,
Intesting solution! 
I would think it would take less then a week.... |
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hari seldon
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 4:38 am Post subject: |
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That is true hollywood.
They should just let foreign teachers teach pvts and declare their income and pay tax on it. This would be the perfect and simplest solution...
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That's a great idea but it won't happen because it would smash the hagwon monopoly. They would insist on continued protectionism. |
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JongnoGuru
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:08 am Post subject: |
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The "English academy" industry in Japan has survived granting teachers ownership of their own visas....
Would the hagwon industry here be different? |
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diablo3
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Would the industry here be different?
In my opinion, the answer is "NO".
Why? Because the hagwons will not change. If you want to go, then they will say "GO", because it menas they can save on severance, and other things.
However, would a non-sponsored visa mean we can teach privates? I am asking because we are now our own free agents if the hagwon does not need to sponsor us.
What do you htink? |
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Homer
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| They would insist on continued protectionism. |
You assume they are one unified body organized in a powerful lobby group. This would be very surprising due to the disparate nature of the ESL industry here. In fact, this is a common misconception. The visa system is in place to control foreign worker influx (how many are here and under what conditions). It is a sponsored visa where the employer garantees the employee will have a job during his stay here. It is a government law and an immigration rule. I agree the visa should be broader.
Visa ownership would be a good idea if it was regulated to protect schools from people quitting (without giving proper notice) for any reason they chose without any consequences. It would also eliminate the paid airfare as schools would not take the chance of paying for a ticket for a teacher who could just quite anytime. If airfare remained it would have to be contractually protected.
This is a complex situation. However, things have improved (slowly)since I got here in 1997. It is a question of time for the industry to evolve and improve. |
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hari seldon
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| They would insist on continued protectionism. |
You assume they are one unified body organized in a powerful lobby group... |
You don't think the hagwon associations would bitch and moan in the press if private English tutoring was to be legalized? |
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Homer
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| You don't think the hagwon associations would *beep* and moan in the press if private English tutoring was to be legalized? |
Sure they would. What you should ask yourself is how effective would this be and how unified they are. Also, what is the true reach of their influence on the government when they are not unified in any sort of meaningful way? |
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hari seldon
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| You don't think the hagwon associations would *beep* and moan in the press if private English tutoring was to be legalized? |
Sure they would. What you should ask yourself is how effective would this be and how unified they are. Also, what is the true reach of their influence on the government when they are not unified in any sort of meaningful way? |
I would expect business owners organized in hagwon associations with a stake in preserving the status quo to respond with their considerable pooled resources in a public relations and lobbying counter-offensive. |
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