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| In your University are you Teaching Students or Pleasing Customers? |
| Teaching Students |
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38% |
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| Pleasing Customers |
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23% |
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| Both |
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38% |
[ 10 ] |
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prosodic

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Location: ����
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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My answer to the poll is "Both" because I think that teaching students means pleasing customers. I know that's my attitude as a student when I take Korean classes. If I think that the teacher is not using good communicative activities and preparing lessons that are appropriate for myself and the other students, then I get upset, possibly demotivated, and I'm likely to write a negative evaluation.
Also, I know that U.S. universities also have a very consumer atmosphere, but again I think that is appropriate. If you're paying $30,000 or whatever per year to go to blahblah State University, then you want to get your money's worth and that means that you want to receive a good education. If the professors do not provide good instruction and are not attentive to the needs of the students, then the consumers (i.e.,
students) are not receiving value for their money and will be displeased.
If you are complaining about your students' consumer attitude, then you may want to at least think about whether or not you are providing them with educational value for the money that they are paying. |
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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject: I agree with you, but |
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| prosodic wrote: |
My answer to the poll is "Both" because I think that teaching students means pleasing customers. I know that's my attitude as a student when I take Korean classes. If I think that the teacher is not using good communicative activities and preparing lessons that are appropriate for myself and the other students, then I get upset, possibly demotivated, and I'm likely to write a negative evaluation.
Also, I know that U.S. universities also have a very consumer atmosphere, but again I think that is appropriate. If you're paying $30,000 or whatever per year to go to blahblah State University, then you want to get your money's worth and that means that you want to receive a good education. If the professors do not provide good instruction and are not attentive to the needs of the students, then the consumers (i.e.,
students) are not receiving value for their money and will be displeased.
If you are complaining about your students' consumer attitude, then you may want to at least think about whether or not you are providing them with educational value for the money that they are paying. |
I totally agree and I am not sure who was complaining, however a consumer may want to be pampered and entertained. I mean, if they are in required English classes they may not be motivated to learn and simply want to get through the class. I think there are variables that does make a more negative point of having a consumer attitude. I think part of the consumeristic attitude might be one of being the passive learner where the impetus is solely on the teacher to impart knowledge while the student will not actively participate or study and yet somehow expect the miracle of havng gained knoweldge and a good grade. |
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prosodic

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Location: ����
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: I agree with you, but |
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| MASH4077 wrote: |
| I mean, if they are in required English classes they may not be motivated to learn and simply want to get through the class. I think there are variables that does make a more negative point of having a consumer attitude. I think part of the consumeristic attitude might be one of being the passive learner where the impetus is solely on the teacher to impart knowledge while the student will not actively participate or study and yet somehow expect the miracle of havng gained knoweldge and a good grade. |
I've taught required classes in the U.S. and the same is true for a percentage of students there. Also, the job of a teacher is to create motivation for the subject. |
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TECO

Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 8:47 am Post subject: |
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we have to fail students in each class at my school.
if we don't fail at least 2-5% then we may not get our raise. |
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prosodic

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Location: ����
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| TECO wrote: |
we have to fail students in each class at my school.
if we don't fail at least 2-5% then we may not get our raise. |
I think I would do well at your university. |
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