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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Evacuation Operations for Americans Reply with quote

Non-combatant Evacuation Operations are a key component in maintaining readiness in overseas communities. It all starts at the processing line where documents checks begin the voyage to a safe haven.
American Forces Network Korea
http://www.afnkorea.net/Yongsan/Article.asp?PT=MILITARY+NEWS&id=82714
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool video. Not your fault, but it would have been cool if the reporter gave more information about where to go.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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information about where to go.


Check with a gate guard at any base. He can tell you or tell you where to find out. The Embassy can also tell you.

It's a useful piece of information to have on hand, like the phone number of the fire department and other emergency information.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evacuation Centers
http://usembassy.state.gov/seoul/wwwh3596.html

US citizens should listen to AFN-K radio & television for instructions on where and when to proceed. AFKN will be the primary source of information and instruction.
AFKN RADIO FREQUENCIES AND TV CHANNELS
http://usembassy.state.gov/seoul/wwwh3597.html

(Please see the map, below, for more information on where the "Areas" are located)
Area 1
Camp Casey, Tongduchon
Camp Howze, Bongiljung
Camp Page, Chunchon
Camp Red Cloud, Uijongbu
Area 2
Three Civilian Sites South of the Han, currently:
Seoul Combined Sports Stadium
Mokdong Ice Rink
Kyonggi Boys High School (near Intercontinental Hotel)
*Yongsan Army Garrison South Post, Yongsan, Seoul
*Hannam Village, Hannam-dong, Seoul
*Note: These US bases will probably close early and will not accept evacuees not associated with the U.S. government.
Area 3
Camp Humphreys, Pyongtaek
Camp Eagle, Wonju
Area 4
Camp George, Taegu
Camp Carroll, Woegwan
Camp Hialeah, Pusan
Chinhae Naval Base, Chinhae
Area 5
Osan Air Base
Area 6
Kunsan Air Base



SEOUL CIVILIAN EVACUATION CONTROL CENTERS
1. Seoul Combined Sports Stadium
2. Kyonggi Boys High School (near Intercontinental Hotel)
3. Mokdong Ice Rink

Essential Documents
Passports
I-151 or I-551 Alien Registration cards ("Green cards")
Korean residency documents
Birth certificates
Marriage certificates
Certificates of Naturalization
Consular Report of Birth Abroad

Essential Emergency Supplies
A minimum three day supply of lightweight, high energy, packaged ready-to-eat foods.
Toiletries (toilet paper, soap, tissues, etc.)
A 30-day supply of any critical medication.
For a baby, a minimum three day supply of food, formula, diapers, etc.
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inthewild



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks man, very useful.

So does the evacuation cost anything? Haha, sorry I had to ask. I just read about how much it costs to ship a dead body back to the States so...
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Evacuation Centers
http://usembassy.state.gov/seoul/wwwh3596.html

US citizens should listen to AFN-K radio & television for instructions on where and when to proceed. AFKN will be the primary source of information and instruction.
AFKN RADIO FREQUENCIES AND TV CHANNELS
http://usembassy.state.gov/seoul/wwwh3597.html

(Please see the map, below, for more information on where the "Areas" are located)
Area 1
Camp Casey, Tongduchon
Camp Howze, Bongiljung
Camp Page, Chunchon
Camp Red Cloud, Uijongbu
Area 2
Three Civilian Sites South of the Han, currently:
Seoul Combined Sports Stadium
Mokdong Ice Rink
Kyonggi Boys High School (near Intercontinental Hotel)
*Yongsan Army Garrison South Post, Yongsan, Seoul
*Hannam Village, Hannam-dong, Seoul
*Note: These US bases will probably close early and will not accept evacuees not associated with the U.S. government.
Area 3
Camp Humphreys, Pyongtaek
Camp Eagle, Wonju
Area 4
Camp George, Taegu
Camp Carroll, Woegwan
Camp Hialeah, Pusan
Chinhae Naval Base, Chinhae
Area 5
Osan Air Base
Area 6
Kunsan Air Base



SEOUL CIVILIAN EVACUATION CONTROL CENTERS
1. Seoul Combined Sports Stadium
2. Kyonggi Boys High School (near Intercontinental Hotel)
3. Mokdong Ice Rink

Essential Documents
Passports
I-151 or I-551 Alien Registration cards ("Green cards")
Korean residency documents
Birth certificates
Marriage certificates
Certificates of Naturalization
Consular Report of Birth Abroad

Essential Emergency Supplies
A minimum three day supply of lightweight, high energy, packaged ready-to-eat foods.
Toiletries (toilet paper, soap, tissues, etc.)
A 30-day supply of any critical medication.
For a baby, a minimum three day supply of food, formula, diapers, etc.


What is the date of publication of that stuff. Or is it always current?
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the same places they had back in '96
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Why are people worrying about it now, honestly nothing is going to happen (knock on wood!!)

2. What most people don't know, yet was posted here once was that once you are evac'ed out, you are liable for the expense incurred during the rescue operation, I heard it was somewhere in the ballpark of about $5000.

Why bother?
This is my evac plan.

PLAN-A;
Get down to the nearest harbor on the west coast and take the next available ferry to China. There, I can either apply for refugee status from the UN refugee organization or look for a teaching job there.

PLAN-B;
Get down to the nearest harbor on the east coast and take the next available ferry to Japan. At leas there, I could find a somewhat decent job and save up for my flight back to the US.
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inthewild wrote:
Thanks man, very useful.

So does the evacuation cost anything? Haha, sorry I had to ask. I just read about how much it costs to ship a dead body back to the States so...


Just curious, but how much is it?
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
1. Why are people worrying about it now, honestly nothing is going to happen (knock on wood!!)

2. What most people don't know, yet was posted here once was that once you are evac'ed out, you are liable for the expense incurred during the rescue operation, I heard it was somewhere in the ballpark of about $5000.

Why bother?
This is my evac plan.

PLAN-A;
Get down to the nearest harbor on the west coast and take the next available ferry to China. There, I can either apply for refugee status from the UN refugee organization or look for a teaching job there.

PLAN-B;
Get down to the nearest harbor on the east coast and take the next available ferry to Japan. At leas there, I could find a somewhat decent job and save up for my flight back to the US.



I wonder how many Koreans will try to jump on those ferrys too. You really think you'll get on?

Running as far South as possible might not be a bad secondary plan, though.

I figure I'll hop on a small motorcycle or my scooter and hit the highway. I figure tons of Koreans will be on it, so I'll just swerve around the cars and stick to the side of the road -- avoiding much of the traffic jam problem. Before leaving, I'll don rubber gloves and duc-tape several strips of aluminum foil on my back to reflect as many nuclear rays as possible. Laughing
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Evacuation Operations for Americans Reply with quote

What about us Canadians? Will the Americans take us in?? (sorry for all those times we, uh, said stuff about your president... Laughing heh heh... errr.... yeah) And what about Taegu? I didn't see any evac centers there. Oh well, I'm toast I guess. Rolling Eyes

As for running towards the coasts, not a bad idea. But the invasion plan of the North Koreans uses their special op forces to take control of the coastline, while the masses invade from the north. Crying or Very sad

I don't think we have anything to worry about. Just hope the US doesn't do another pre-emptive strike... Confused

Sorry for all those faces, but this post was an emotional rollercoaster.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derreck amply wrote..
Quote:
how many Koreans will try to jump on those ferrys too. You really think you'll get on?



Absolutely, but I am fully aware that it is going to be costly. But it should be far less then then $5000 or so the US would charge me~ and you would be surprised what powers a box of soju might have on a deal.

Quote:
I'll hop on a small motorcycle or my scooter and hit the highway


Room for one more? You can steer and I'll pay for gas. Whatever is left of the box of Soju, I'll split with you.

brento1138 keenly wrote;
Quote:
What about us Canadians? Will the Americans take us in??


Sure, why not.
But there is a long waiting list first.
Just get in line behind....

1. Military dependants
2. Civilian contractors
3. DoD officials
4. Embassy staff and family
5. non-essential military staff (an oxy-moron)
6. infirmed and disabled personnel
7. American nationals and expatriates
8. Close american allies (japanese, british australians)
9. 2nd-tier friends (Canada, France, Germany) [this is where you fit in]

Hey! just join me, Derreck and a host of other motley chacracters and we can make a caravan all the way towards Pusan or as far as we can get on the little money we earn as teachers Razz


BTW~ cheers-!
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Americans in Kuwait needed no plan as they were (mostly) evacuated by the Brits.

They sailed out on the "Britannia", then the Queen's yacht. Not sure how much they were charged.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be just like it was in Saigon in 75 when the north took over! Helter Sketler! Everyone and whoever trying to get on board the helicopter! Including people who love to bad mouth America would be begging for a ride out!
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't put too much faith in the United States helping out any civilians.

My family was in Lesotho during the second revolt against the monarchy back in the 80s when they started shooting the foreigners and we were hold up in our house with no way to get to the airport.

The American embassy said tough luck, you're not embassy personnel, find your own way out.

So we called up the British Embassy and they sent over a squad of Royal Marines and some Ghurkas to help get us to the airport and the British Ambassador paid for our plane tickets on the last flight out out of his own pocket.
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