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Relationship Issues for Koreans and Japanese

 
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:27 pm    Post subject: Relationship Issues for Koreans and Japanese Reply with quote

A Lesson From Korean-Japanese Couples
... At first, I wanted to settle in Korea for a long time, but it's become difficult." She said in museums, if students hear Japanese, they say, "We're out of luck; there are Japanese around," and in restaurants near tourist areas, customers can be heard complaining, "With all the Japanese here, the food is losing its flavor." She hears it all. Crying, she said, "My family and friends back home, who've seen only violent scenes on TV, worry a lot."

"In Korea, it seems like everyone thinks the same. Whenever a problem arises, I don't hear any dissent or doubt. In Japan, we don't talk about politics unless people are very close. Instead, we quietly go about finding things out on our own."... but nowadays we ignore the news because we don't want to fight."

How are Korean-Japanese couples doing in Japan? Choi, 32, who works for an electronics company in Tokyo. "Most people pretend not to know [about the deteriorating state of bilateral ties], but I was put into a tough spot when one of my coworkers pointedly asked, 'Why are they burning Japanese flags in Korea?' I laughed it off, saying, 'Dokdo is Korean territory, and Takeshima is Japanese territory.' I adjusted to my place of work as best I could, but it's vexing that things have turned out this way. It's understandable that some people are anti-Japanese, but I wish they would avoid overly radical protests."

Choi's experience at work is unusual; most ordinary couples agree that Japan is relatively quiet... "We aren't greatly affected by the anti-Japanese atmosphere in Korea. But my husband gets annoyed when he sees on TV some Koreans burning portraits of Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi."

"Most Japanese think, 'We've apologized 17 times and paid compensation at the government level, so how can you keep asking us to apologize?'
Chosun Ilbo (Masy 19, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200505/200505190013.html
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ChimpumCallao



Joined: 17 May 2005
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Relationship Issues for Koreans and Japanese Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
A Lesson From Korean-Japanese Couples

"In Korea, it seems like everyone thinks the same. Whenever a problem arises, I don't hear any dissent or doubt.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200505/200505190013.html


Wow. A JAPANESE complaining about the lack of dissent and individual opinions. Congratulations Korea.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Most Japanese think, 'We've apologized 17 times and paid compensation at the government level, so how can you keep asking us to apologize?'
Chosun Ilbo (Masy 19, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200505/200505190013.html
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chance2005



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If nobody cares about it in Japan, why does the Japanese Governent claim Takeshima as their own? Why not just give it up if it is such a non-issue.
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ChimpumCallao



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chance2005 wrote:
If nobody cares about it in Japan, why does the Japanese Governent claim Takeshima as their own? Why not just give it up if it is such a non-issue.


True. But there is a difference in something being an issue, as I assume it is in Japan, to it being a giant nationalistic gong show, and the only subject in newspapers for the last month or so, as it has been in Korea.
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chance2005



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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChimpumCallao wrote:
chance2005 wrote:
If nobody cares about it in Japan, why does the Japanese Governent claim Takeshima as their own? Why not just give it up if it is such a non-issue.


True. But there is a difference in something being an issue, as I assume it is in Japan, to it being a giant nationalistic gong show, and the only subject in newspapers for the last month or so, as it has been in Korea.


Sorry, though I find Koreans to be xenophobic, extremely ethnocentric, and at times obnoxious and downright borish towards foreigners, I do empathize with their feeling about Japan. Tokdo is just a rock, but it symbolizes Japan's arrogance in the region. Japan has not come to terms with its past and it will not come to terms with its past until the geriatrics in positions of power within the Japanese government die off. As you have seen in China, with the riots in Shanghai, and the attacks on Japanese business men and the Japanese consulate, the old wounds caused by Japanese aggression have not healed. Japan has done little to heal these wounds except to provide low interest loans and much direct investment in the region. Japanese money and technology is respected in the region but not their behavior. In white-washing their past, they have alienated their neighbors. For the most part on the issue of Tokdo, it is difficult for us to provide strong opinions or look down on Koreans for being so nationalistic. It is just not an issue for North Americans, because we were never colonized by the Japanese. Maybe if we had, we would feel differently about this issue if Japan claimed dominion over Hawaii.
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you haven't noticed, every country in North-East Asia is prone to revisionist history. China has whitewashed their history books of the 30+ Million people that starved to death due to Mao's irrational policies. Koreans have done the same with their history, glorifying their country before the Japanese annexation. By the way Koreans glowingly talk about the Cheosun dynasty, you would think Korea would have been the next world superpower. If only Japan hadn't twarted their lofy ambitions. Even some Koreans today are trying to say that the Americans started the Korean War.
Nothing needs to be said about North Korea and lies.
In conclusion, Japan may need to be honest about it's history but so do Korea and China.
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