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lastat06513 · Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 6:08 am Post subject:

hellofaniceguy wrote

coolsage · Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:

It's not going to happen. US forces are already stretched, 'liberating' Iraq and Afghanistan, and maintaining a presence in several of the other 'stans'. Dubya won't go preemptive on North Korea until he's had his way with Iran, which is where the oil is, and by that time I'll be out of here. The Koreans, north and south, have a lot to answer for, beginning with the Japanese occupation. Let them work it out, themselves.

fiveeagles · Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver

You also have to consider Iran. Iran is making a power play and will be involved sooner or later.

Also, other countries, like France, Germany and Syria will try to undermine the US efforts.

Regardless, the real battlefield is the mind.

lastat06513 · Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 9:51 am Post subject:

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Guri Guy · Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island

I think what the poster means is that Koreans are going to have to get over the occupation. Yes it was traumatic but apologies have been given many times and a lot of money has been paid out in compensation. If you want to move ahead, you can't keep looking backwards. Korea needs to move on and put it in the past.

And as far as any idiot that thinks the North could take Seoul, the chances of that are less likely than North Korea winning the World Cup. How do suppose that the North is going to get over the DMZ, the most heavily militarized zone in the world? Having no extra food or oil to sustain any kind of offensive plus obsolete equipment, not a snowball's chance in hell.

Furthermore a lot of these troops in this 1 million man army are tied up preventing another Incheon from happening. Also many troops are deployed to make sure there aren't food riots because maybe you haven't heard but people are starving up there.

Well trained Homer? Get real. Did you even read my link? North Korean soldiers are more likely to be helping harvest crops then they are actually training. That is, if there are any crops to harvest...

Rikus · Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Location: Seoul

The truth of the matter is that we could not conventionaly invade North Korea without losing massive amounts of personel. It's the terrain and the fact that they have been building and building defenses for 50 years. The american people would never stand for the amount of casualties we would sustain in that type of war. We could however destroy the NK army if it tried to invade. We would have some major casualties at the beginning and their would be alot of civilian casualties. It would be very ugly but NK has no chance of winning. However, it would be bloody and alot of people would die and cities destroyed. That is why it hasn't happened yet. I could tell you some stuff about both sides that would keep you up at night but their would be no point in it. It's better just to think about it like you think about getting hit by a car. There is nothing you could do about it at the time and its highly unlikely so you just never think about it.

darbyjh · Joined: 09 May 2005

At the first sign of any major military movement that looks like a possible offensive from the north, the US will use preemptive measures to try and prevent a major confrontation. This of course will not be ignored or it might just humble them. If, for any reason, the south became the agressor, the US, according to their agreement, would let them go it alone. If you note, the south refused to sign the armistice because they did not want to give up fighting. But the UN had said it would be futile and the costs of life on all sides was just too much already. The question I have to ask, and I already know the answer, but still have to ask it because the answer just doesn't cut it for me is: Why in heck did the US ever divide the countries after WWII with Russia? They say it all had to do with sharing the rebuilding costs. What a huge ammount of money we have spent to try and remedy that mistake.

To return to the subject:

This whole mess with the north could be over quickly if it were not for two things (if you think of more that's ok because it's late and I am tired)

1. President Kim is a lunatic and would never give up his dictatorship.
2. How can you save face after 50+ years of bickering? You know, the worst battles are those with family; ie. US Civil War.

As for the assault on Seoul, if it happened, it would be ballistic and not nuclear (let's get real, the fallout would devistate the north as well, at least portions). Japan is the country that needs to worry about a nuclear attack. Also, if the north is a nationalistic as the south, they wouldn't destroy it with nuclear missiles, after all, don't they want all of Korea. Why would you radiate land that you hope to possess and occupy. Japan would be no problem, considering the annexation of Korea over 100 years ago by their (then) imperialistic government. Why do you think the rhetoric with Japan's PM is so strong. He is very concerned. As is China, although they might use this as an opportunity to ally themselves with the north so they could try and take Taiwan.

This would all seriously destabalize the region and we would be out of a job (and if we are lucky, airlifted to the Philippines or Guam, or unlucky and be bomb fodder).

itaewonguy · Joined: 25 Mar 2003

THe USA need to remember IRAN is a war nation! and they have nothing to loose. but they will never go down without a fight! and when USA wins and goes home IRAN will just rebuild it self through the SANDS of time as it always has! PERSIA was a force and have had more blood shed than USA ever had or ever will..
trying to take IRAN will be costly financially and the human casualties will be HUGE! but at the end of it all. USA WILL FIND BABYLON! with OIL of RICHES!

when will the GREED STOP!!!

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Homer · Guest

There is also long range artilley...they could most likely level large portions of Seoul before those guns would be silenced.

NK is not just a bunch of farmer-conscripts. In that society being in the army means you are the Elite of the Elite and hence you have status. They are well motivated and enjoy a very important terrain advantage. This would be a very ugly war.

Guri,

That makes more sense. However, Korea is not alone in not forgiving Japan for its WWII (and pre-WWII) acts. Look to China and Nankin, the Philipines and many other countries/areas that were conquered and occupied by imperial Japan.
The question of the apology seems to be far from resolved in their eyes.