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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthewwoodford wrote:
...you're being treated on an equal footing with any Korean in your position ... they may just not care if they're being rude ... they're bullying you in order to get you under their thumb.

From all I've read in my year on Dave's, I'd have to agree. My impressions:

1. Most teachers who receive this thuggish treatment haven't done anything to deserve it.

2. Eamo is speaking the literal truth when he says (in Grotto's recent "newbies" thread) that he's lucky to've had only one bad employer out of five.

It would be interesting to see the results of a poll on how high or low job satisfaction levels are among foreign teachers working in Korea. Employers should be rated by respect & fairness as shown by: students, bosses or owners themselves, and perhaps also co-teachers, Korean colleagues and staff. Also interesting would be to see how job satisfaction in Korea compares with other EFL markets, like Japan.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think one should avoid confrontation to the last and instead, you should contrive to develop a thick skin.

I had a set-to with a supervisor and demolished him with ease. My lack of respect for him made me scathing, while his battle with English didn't help his fighting finesse.

Finally, I mouthed the magic words: 'I've decided against renewing my contract.' As I walked away, I could hear the guttural voice of the boss, who had attended the meeting, chewing him out.

Next day, he sought a meeting and was all milk and honey. I responded positively, as working atmosphere is a must-have. So we became so sugar and sweet that it was unbearable. I still had to leave, under those circumstances. Remaining as mortal enemies would have been far more
more tolerable.

So in the end, I was the loser.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetool,

If you can't understand what was written, maybe you should go back to school, perhaps grade two.

This is a discussion forum, not a lesson planning/teaching forum.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that my opinion is worth two cents...but I can understand Mindmetoo......and I agree....sure, this is a discussion board...asking for help, etc...still...what we do, how we write, say, act, etc..... is a guideline of sorts of how one teaches. It all reflects back.
It is so very easy to type and use the shift key for capital letters or the spell check function on the computer. I think most people who read letters posted on the internet...ESPECIALLY on an ESL site would expect good grammar skills, etc. Is it being to picky?
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So this is what you consider proper grammer?

I was sitting on the dock......when a boy came..... we laughed....

And if mindmetooo finds poor writing putrid.....she shouldn't be teaching ESL...because ESL students ...often are poor writers....
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and it's supposed to be "too picky?" not "to picky?"
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sheba



Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimchieluver I totally agree with you.

My earlier point was that writing on daves is not an english lesson.... no one actually uses perfect, correct english in casual converation, so whats the big deal??
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm scolding really does suck, I know I went through two months of negative feedback. Then one day I had a teacher meeting and I just ripped into the moronic books we have to teach from, and hence forth negative feedback stoped.

As far as other teachers attacking each other I find this very repulsive. If a person is not suited for the job sooner or later they will leave.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Tiny Tibbo's boss doesn't realise how easy it is to get a job teaching kindergarten in Korea, and how it's the absolute last thing 95% of us even want to consider doing, she should experience an employee quiting and then trying to find a replacement in time given the current market.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have vowed never to teach Kindy again. I did it for a year and it was complete waste of time. Of course they learned basic phonics, but it took forever for them to learn. The books sucked and to top it off they have to go through phonics again in grade 1. I can't understand why somebody who is teaching pure Kindy would be given a hard time.

I only had one Kindy class a day, my KT co-teacher and I both hated it. One student would always be drawing something on a different page in Gogo Loves English and another would be kissing every other student. Another kid would always puch everybody. The two that actually learned were okay,but damn it was hard time.

I can't imagine teaching Kindy full time. They should be grateful that they found someone to do it. The OP should start sticking up for herself and lay into them. She is doing them a great service.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
i forgot bec i had many things



It's the 'bec' that annoyed me. There is a standard short form of 'because'. Is 'bec' new slang somewhere?
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:
Not that my opinion is worth two cents...but I can understand Mindmetoo......and I agree....sure, this is a discussion board...asking for help, etc...still...what we do, how we write, say, act, etc..... is a guideline of sorts of how one teaches. It all reflects back.
It is so very easy to type and use the shift key for capital letters or the spell check function on the computer. I think most people who read letters posted on the internet...ESPECIALLY on an ESL site would expect good grammar skills, etc. Is it being to picky?


take a look at your OWN writing skills there, mr.oxford.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rarely is the question asked: is our children learning?
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, is they? ... no, am they? .... wait, ain't they?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is. They's probably ain't.
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