Korean Job Discussion Forums

[dimnd]

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[buymybook]

They may have every intent to screw you in the end but don't do anything that will piss them off until they give you a 30 dismissal notice or you give them your 30 day notice and are gone or not working there anymore. When you do not work there anymore then go to the labor office. If you go before you may not ever get anything. If you go after the same may be true. You could politely threaten you employer that you are going to go to the Labor Office. They may not care and may laugh at you because most Hagwons don't care about the labor law or most other laws. Hopefully you have some money that you can wire/send your son, he may need it like me. My parents don't send me S***!

Get the directions to your local Labor Office and if you can, find a Korean[preferably a male because the LO or any other possible future place you may need to go(court) may not respect a woman/girl/girlfriend] who will help. Immigration acccused me of having a Korean girlfriend while I was trying to convince them that they should allow me to have an E-2 Visa. Many Korean people or government offices will try to think of any reason to F*** you since you are the Foreigner.

I'm assuming you don't know the Korean language! You should realize that most Koreans who says they will help you may not. And, even if they do they will probably eventually quit so you will either need money to pay for such a person(possible lawyer) or find additional folks to help you. You should decide early in this process whether you want to take on this battle because you are alone and many people may tell you to quit(especially Koreans). Hopefully your situation will not turn too ugly!

Immigration is probably not on your side they don't care about you and most likely will not help you. Even with a favorable ruling by the Labor Office your employer can tell Immigration you "quit and ran away" from your job which immediately "blacklists" you. Yes, I understand that this would in affect be telling one government office one thing and a different government office another(suppose they fire you, they will need to try and justify to the LO that they legally fired you).

The process can be long(30-90 days), the Labor office may ask you(like they did me) to get the contract translated and written in Korean. The labor office ruled in my favor but guess who never paid. They would rather pay the fine, it may be cheaper. You should know that if the place you work has 5 employees or less the Labor Office cannot do much for you according to the law, but if they rule in your favor their decision could be helpful for you in civil court. To find your local Labor office call 1350(since he is in Gumi, I'm not sure how to contact the Labor Office) on your home phone and ask for English. Get to the closest place they tell you(subway/bus) and then if necessary take a taxi, ask for an "interpreter." That should get you there.

[Real Reality]

Gumi Regional Office
Tel. 82-54-457-0009 / Fax. 82-54-456-4681 / Zip Code : 730-090
51 Songjeong-dong, Gumi-si, Gyeongsangbuk-do, Korea
Extent of Jurisdiction: Gumi-si, Gimcheon-si
Ministry of Labor
http://www.molab.go.kr:8787/about/about_06_05.jsp

Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
Overall living conditions, including education, housing, medical care, transportation, immigration, and access to the Internet are pointed to as inconveniences. Not only inconveniences caused by different systems and customs in Korea, but also special discriminating practices, such as the practice of submitting two years of monthly rent in advance like a deposit, which is required of foreigners just because they are foreigners, are ubiquitous. "Even though Korea has achieved some degree of globalization in going abroad, it has still a long way to go for globalization in embracing foreigners inward," said foreigners residing in Korea.

An official in the International Cooperation Division of Seoul City admitted, "The same complaints regarding visas, transportation, education, and environment are raised every year without being solved, due to the lack of cooperation from government agencies involved and their passive attitudes."
by Jae-Dong Yu and Soo-Jung Shin, Donga.com (July 4, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448

Haven't been paid in 2 months.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=27718

Letter of Release
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=20222

Contacting Immigration & Arbitration
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=3327

EFL LAW
http://efl-law.com/faq.html

My employer has not paid me on the due date. What can I do?
Your employer has not paid you on the specified contractual date. The employer has breached a substantial condition of your contract. You have asked for payment but received none nor received any information that satisfies you as to when and why the payment is not forthcoming. At this stage you may wish to consider tendering the required days notice of contract termination, unless you are satisfied as to why the payment has been delayed. (If you are on E1 or E2 visa, do not resign.)
See http://efl-law.com/faqans_lab-off.html

Post subject: Help! Important Contacts, Embassies & Advice
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=20647

Have you ever been paid late in Korea?
Poll: Have you been paid late in Korea?
A. Never - I must be lucky! 30%
B. Once or twice - no big deal, minor annoyance... 23%
C. Several times - hate it! 20%
D. Several times - but I understand the culture, doesn't bother me... 6%
E. Many times - sigh... 16%
F. I've never been paid on time! ARGH! 2%
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=18732

[dimnd]

Thanks

[prosodic]

[the eye]

hs should get to the labr board, ASAP. hopefully his girlfriend can get down there to translate, as i doubt Gumi has fluent english speaking officers.
he should take his contract, and all pay records.

[Bozo Yoroshiku]

[just because]

Your son landed in a shockingly bad situation...maybe if he had of done a check before he came might have been better....

But I know hindsight is an amazing thing and everyone makes some mistakes.....

The outcome probably won't be good for him at all...he will be lucky to get 1K out of him if that....even with labour board help, the will probably have to bargain.

Why isn't he on here and you are speaking on his behalf???

[Bozo Yoroshiku]

[dimnd]

ok

[dimnd]

how long does that take..

I just ordered Jeff new transcripts sealed and diploma from his university.

[Bozo Yoroshiku]

[dimnd]

bozo this is 2nd time 4 u 4 n money?

[the eye]

dimnd:

give your son your password for your account on this site so HE can use your account to ask question s here.

it's much more efficient.

[darrin312]

EDIT- Good luck to you and your son!

edited because I was being a dilhole