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canukteacher
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Korea
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I for one would have to see this in writing from Korean Immigration before I would believe it. I would say what you are telling us here Seollo (or whaterver your name is) is heresay, and not fact.
Here is a case in point. On my birth certificate it states that I was born in Montreal. I lived in Montreal for exactly one month of my life. My parents are not French. My passport states where I was born. Based on that information I am now going to be denied a Visa?? I think not.
What about the francophone who was born in an English speaking province, and moved to Quebec at a young age? What do they do with this person?
Then again, Korean logic is sometimes backwards. Time will tell I guess.
Maybe all Canadian will be required to pass an English proficiency test 
CT |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Well,
Contacted the Canadian embassy in Seoul about this foul smelling OP....
My wife contacted Immigration and Foreign Affairs here in Korea...
and...
the OP's statements are, as stated before a pile of corn field fertilizer that has been sitting in the sun too long.
The E-2 visa can be given to Canadians of any province as long as they meet basic requirements (sponsored by a school, holders of a B.A., ect.) |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| As I've mentioned many times, all they have to do is ditch the 6 month E2 Canadians get, and they'd cut their illegal teaching problems by 70% or more. |
Did it ever occur to you that the 6 month mutual visa waiver Koreans and Canadians enjoy between our two nations isn't JUST about, you know, a loophole for illegal teaching? You think the Canadian and Korean governments negotiated this highly special exception so Canadian boys can work under the table in Korea and wave it in the face of Americans? Mmmmm like maybe it has a foundation in important economic and social ties between our nations? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 5:54 am Post subject: |
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So now we know that Seoulo
is a "butt-holo"? |
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turtlepi1
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
Well,
Contacted the Canadian embassy in Seoul about this foul smelling OP....
My wife contacted Immigration and Foreign Affairs here in Korea...
and...
the OP's statements are, as stated before a pile of corn field fertilizer that has been sitting in the sun too long.
The E-2 visa can be given to Canadians of any province as long as they meet basic requirements (sponsored by a school, holders of a B.A., ect.) |
*High-fives* Homer!!!
Have a look at his posts which total about 3 per year.
Always about visas or the such...
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/search.php?search_author=Seoulo
Someone's sock, troll or just a very weird person.
Either that or Homer will be eating crow...  |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Derrek wrote: |
| As I've mentioned many times, all they have to do is ditch the 6 month E2 Canadians get, and they'd cut their illegal teaching problems by 70% or more. |
Did it ever occur to you that the 6 month mutual visa waiver Koreans and Canadians enjoy between our two nations isn't JUST about, you know, a loophole for illegal teaching? You think the Canadian and Korean governments negotiated this highly special exception so Canadian boys can work under the table in Korea and wave it in the face of Americans? Mmmmm like maybe it has a foundation in important economic and social ties between our nations? |
No, I fully and whole-heartedly admit that I believe it is simply something that happened for other reasons, and is exploited by Canadians to the fullest. And I never said anything about "waving it in the face" of Americans.
Why do you guys ASSume that the only reason I make a big deal out of it is because of the Canada/US thing? I say what I say about the 6-month tourist visa because it's the truth.
Korea could get rid of a lot of illegal teachers if they were more strict about how long Canadians are allowed to stay in-country. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| And Canada could get rid of a lot of illegal Korean workers the same way. So what? |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:50 am Post subject: |
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No, I fully and whole-heartedly admit that I believe it is simply something that happened for other reasons, and is exploited by Canadians to the fullest. And I never said anything about "waving it in the face" of Americans.
Why do you guys ASSume that the only reason I make a big deal out of it is because of the Canada/US thing? I say what I say about the 6-month tourist visa because it's the truth.
Korea could get rid of a lot of illegal teachers if they were more strict about how long Canadians are allowed to stay in-country. |
Korea could also get rid of a lot of crime if they got rid of USFK.
See how this begins? |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Either that or Homer will be eating crow... |
Always a possibility mate... |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
Why do you guys ASSume that the only reason I make a big deal out of it is because of the Canada/US thing?
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You're fooling no one. I know you're not a stupid man and the logic in my point below cannot really have escaped you. So the only conclusion is you're 100% jealous Canadians have documented proof other countries LOVE Canadians in direct proportion to their loathing of Americans.
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I say what I say about the 6-month tourist visa because it's the truth. Korea could get rid of a lot of illegal teachers if they were more strict about how long Canadians are allowed to stay in-country. |
Yeah. But so what? You're stating the obvious. Will you tell us tomorrow that you've astutely noticed the sun comes up everyday?
Look, every nation could get rid of a lot of illegal foreign activity if it restricted tourist visas. But the point is nations negotiate these waivers because they believe the economic benefits far outweigh the negatives. Canada and Korea have come to the conclusion a mutual 6 month visa waiver works for the both of us. End of story. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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What is it with all these supposed "New Immigration Rules" coming out of nowhere every two days or so?
First it was the transcript thing. Then, it was something about foreigners not being able to get International VISA cards. Now, some Canadians can't get E-2's?
Is this the fallout of that SBS program or what? I'm starting to get the feeling that either:
1- there's a lot of BS going around in the form of rumors
or
2- Immigration is actually pushing for more stringent regulations in all the wrong places.
I'm from Montreal, but my mother tongue is English. Yes, I speak French, but does that mean I can't teach English? I really hope this crap isn't true! |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Not true, false, garbage, crap, false alarm, scare tactics. Pure bullpucky. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: yes |
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Even an excellent English speaking Francophone (if French is their 1st language) is about as good as Korean to teach English.
Ads state NATIVE SPEAKER and if you are a native speaker, then goodie for you, you deserve your visa.
If not, you are nothing more than a fraud, as bad as schools who deceive teachers. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| Even an excellent English speaking Francophone (if French is their 1st language) is about as good as Korean to teach English. |
I beg to differ.
There are several Quebec born Canadians teaching in Korea. Most of them have excellent English skills or are simply fluent in English with little or no discernable accent. You are making a judgement based on ignorance. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Even an excellent English speaking Francophone (if French is their 1st language) is about as good as Korean to teach English.
I beg to differ.
There are several Quebec born Canadians teaching in Korea. Most of them have excellent English skills or are simply fluent in English with little or no discernable accent. You are making a judgement based on ignorance. |
I agree whole-heartedly! Horse manure. |
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