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azjen



Joined: 29 May 2004
Location: Youngtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:08 am    Post subject: Exit Order Reply with quote

What is it? Why is my director demanding I go with her to immigration to obtain one? Do I have to?

I tried searching, but found no definite answers to my questions.

My boss is insisting that I go with her a few days before my contract is up to obtain one. Is it a ploy for her to try to weasel out of the airfare she owes me?

Thanks for the advise! You guys have been great.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is issued by immigration when a teacher is released from his/her contract.
you must leave the country within 14 days of the issue date on the order.
it is standard procedure if you leave a jiob before the end of your contract.

you shouldn't need one if your contract is up, however. check the date on your ARC...that is the date you must leave by.
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azjen



Joined: 29 May 2004
Location: Youngtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but I am leaving at the completion of my contract and my boss is trying to weasel out of return airfare that is in my contract

This is confusing
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, that's right, if you are completing your contract, you should not agree to getting an exit order.
i doubt it is a ploy.
your director may simply be confused.

check the date on your ARC. you do not want to be in the country past that date, or you will be subject to fines.

that is all you need to worry about.


*edit*
i just remembered something.

didn't you post a 'resignation' letter here that you gave to your boss? i understod that your director was trying to get you to stay past your contract year...and you gave her a letter to explain you cannot stay longer than the year.

correct?

well, as i remember, that letter had very difficult vocabulary in it (for a korean). i wonder if your boss took it as a simple resignation letter and therefore thinks you are quitting.
even though you are staying the full year, your boss may be confused by that letter.
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jay-shi



Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: On tour

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eye wrote:
it is issued by immigration when a teacher is released from his/her contract.


It's been twice my experience that immigration automatically sends you an exit order a few weeks before the end of your contract. They have you on file as leaving on a certain date, and remind you that you have to leave the country or get in touch with them.

To the OP: Tell your boss that immigration will automatically send you one at the end of the contract and that she can call them herself to enquire if she so wishes.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay-shi wrote:
It's been twice my experience that immigration automatically sends you an exit order a few weeks before the end of your contract


was it a half size paper with thte words "exit order" in large bold print?
if so, i'm suprised. i've never received one in 4 years, except the one year i left early.

however, this is a country where things can differ greatly from region to region.
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azjen



Joined: 29 May 2004
Location: Youngtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks loads guys. The boss lived in the US for nearly 2 decades. She is capable of understanding the document I gave her, otherwise I would have either translated it into Korean or simply made the letter easier to read.

I will let her know that immigration should be reminding me to leave the country mid-June.


Thanks again!
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eye wrote:
jay-shi wrote:
It's been twice my experience that immigration automatically sends you an exit order a few weeks before the end of your contract


was it a half size paper with thte words "exit order" in large bold print?
if so, i'm suprised. i've never received one in 4 years, except the one year i left early.

however, this is a country where things can differ greatly from region to region.


I don't think that postcard from Immigration is classified as an exit order per se. I think that it's a "friendly" reminder that you should be making plans to leave the country once your visa expires.
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jay-shi



Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: On tour

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FUBAR wrote:
the eye wrote:
jay-shi wrote:
It's been twice my experience that immigration automatically sends you an exit order a few weeks before the end of your contract


was it a half size paper with thte words "exit order" in large bold print?
if so, i'm suprised. i've never received one in 4 years, except the one year i left early.

however, this is a country where things can differ greatly from region to region.


I don't think that postcard from Immigration is classified as an exit order per se. I think that it's a "friendly" reminder that you should be making plans to leave the country once your visa expires.


You are right. The "postcard" I received, was in fact an "Advanced Notice on Expiration of your Stay Period" and not an "Exit Order".
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nrvs



Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: standing upright on a curve

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay-shi wrote:
You are right. The "postcard" I received, was in fact an "Advanced Notice on Expiration of your Stay Period" and not an "Exit Order".

It's good that they let you know.

Is the process for extending an E-2 for, say, a couple weeks difficult? My E-2 expires 5 days before my contract does (I'm not sure why). How do I go about getting an extension? Just a trip to Mokdong with my contract in hand? How much does it cost?

I'm sure I could find this in the FAQs or by searching, but since we're on the topic...
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your visa expires before the contract date...and you have not worked a full 12 months...and if you work for a low down dirty scum bag hakwon ower..... it could be a way for him/her to not pay you your severance.
Your school needs to file paper work with immigration requesting an extension for a few more weeks, etc..
It should cost you nothing...it's the schools responsibility.
If however..you are one of the very very very few fortunate ones to work for a decent human being of a hakwon owner...then you'll get your severance, etc...
How many decent hakwon owners are there?
Yeah...I have a thing for hakwon owners and most korean business owners....I have seen the majority of teachers and DDD workers cheated by koreans.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nrvs wrote:
Is the process for extending an E-2 for, say, a couple weeks difficult? My E-2 expires 5 days before my contract does (I'm not sure why). How do I go about getting an extension? Just a trip to Mokdong with my contract in hand? How much does it cost?

I'm sure I could find this in the FAQs or by searching, but since we're on the topic...


it's easy. you need to fill out a form at immigration....and i believe you need some documentation from the school as well.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To extend your visa for a month is really easy. This is what you need to do.

You need to bring your passport, arc and a copy of your passport. Along with proof of documentation of your airline tickets stating your exit date of the country. Then fill out the form at immigration. They will write on the back of your ARC or Passport (your extension date). Last month, I received a 1 month extension two days before my visa was set to expire at the Busan office.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NRVS:

the date you must leave korea is NOT on your E2 stamp in your passport..... it is on your ARC.

so if you are leavign before the date on your ARC, there isno need for an extension.
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nrvs



Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: standing upright on a curve

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses!

I just checked my ARC, visa, and contract. Here are the expiry dates of each:

ARC: 10/26/2005
Visa: 10/26/2005
Contract: 10/31/2005

I'm not too worried about my hogwan screwing me (I know, I know, famous last words...) because I've seen 3 foreign teachers leave at the end of their contracts without any difficulty. Two others left midway through their contracts to go home to Canada and they were paid for their last month without a hint of shadiness.

I went on my Osaka visa run on 10/26/2005 (Tuesday). I worked the next three days (Wednesday to Friday) before my contract officially started on Monday the 1st of November. It was a favor to the hogwan, and I got paid on the 10th of November for those three days. I'm not sure if I was illegal at this point. I had a visa, but I was outside my contract. In any case, it's water under the bridge now.

Is this mystery documentation from my hogwan necessary for the extension? It seems there's a conflicting opinion on this point.
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