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Rich and Poor in Korea; 5 Million Koreans in Poverty

 
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: Rich and Poor in Korea; 5 Million Koreans in Poverty Reply with quote

5 Million Koreans Live in Poverty
More than 5 million Koreans are living in poverty, with one in every 10 people surviving on an income below minimum living expenses. According to a survey by the Ministry of Health and Welfare on Wednesday... The poor include those who earn less than the minimum living costs and those who make less than 1.36 million won per month.
By Bae Keun-min, Korea Times (May 25, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200505/kt2005052519085811910.htm

Rich Earn 18 Times More than Poor
The top 10 percent of the income bracket earned a monthly average of 7.76 million won ($7,760) in the first quarter,... The "haves" spent more for education as monthly educational spending by the top 10 percent of the income bracket came to 598,000 won in the first quarter, while the bottom 10 percent bracket spent only 85,000 won.
By Lee Hyo-sik, Korea Times (May 25, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200505/kt2005052519463110160.htm
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile, in Communist Cuba, EVERYONE lives in poverty (excpept Fidel)

Capitalism is the worst system
except for the rest.
QED
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dichotomy of the classes...
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dzeisons



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the figures for people living in poverty in the US, RR? i'd guess that this is one area in which koreans are outperforming the us.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

real reality wrote:
The poor include those who earn less than the minimum living costs and those who make less than 1.36 million won per month.

This isn't per person......it is for a family of 4.
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dzeisons wrote:
What are the figures for people living in poverty in the US, RR? i'd guess that this is one area in which koreans are outperforming the us.



Sadly you'd guess wrong

CIA World factbook wrote:
Population below poverty line:
Definition Field Listing
12% (2004 est.)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html


In fact if you look at this source (kind of outdated, and missing a weirdly high number of major countries), Korea comes out looking pretty good at 116th out of 117: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_pop_bel_pov_lin&int=-1

Whichever way you look at it though, these numbers are pretty sad.
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Gollum



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that means if I marry my girlfriend and I get an F-2 visa, I'll be able to work two FT jobs or 3 PT ones and make over 5 million -- for about the same hours the guys put in at Samsung.

She already makes 2.6 after tax anyway, so we'll be in the rich bracket once you combine the salaries.

Pretty cool. We'll be banking 5 million a month, I estimate. Three years of that, and I've got a nice down-payment on a crib back home.

Now I know why many people hate English teachers so much.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now I know why many people hate English teachers so much.


Well, in the spirit of your vendetta against Canadians I think there should be a ban on marriage between Americans and Koreans. You're obviously greater than the sum of your parts.

It's only fair.
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dzeisons



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swiss james wrote:
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dzeisons wrote:
What are the figures for people living in poverty in the US, RR? i'd guess that this is one area in which koreans are outperforming the us.



Sadly you'd guess wrong

CIA World factbook wrote:
Population below poverty line:
Definition Field Listing
12% (2004 est.)

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html


According to the figures in the website you listed, korea IS much better than the US. It only has 4% of the pop. living under the poverty line. So sadly I guessed right.
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure how reliable those sources are. Korea listed at only 4%. China at 10%, Malaysia at only 8%??? The United States at 12%. Methinks that some countries have been fudging their numbers.
Yes, China and Malaysia have less problems with poverty than the United States.
Maybe South Korea is doing something right though. I will check into it. I will google it up...
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Hagwon Muppet



Joined: 18 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
I am not sure how reliable those sources are. Korea listed at only 4%. China at 10%, Malaysia at only 8%??? The United States at 12%. Methinks that some countries have been fudging their numbers.
Yes, China and Malaysia have less problems with poverty than the United States.
Maybe South Korea is doing something right though. I will check into it. I will google it up...


All depends how they are measuring poverty. Most measures are not absolute these days but are relative to the wealth of the country. Therefore someone making 100 bucks a month in China is probably not living under the poverty line but that salary in the US definitely would be.
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm....I had a thought. Koreans said that 5 million Koreans live in poverty. If there are 48 million people here then that is over 10% of the population that is in poverty. On the other hand, other Koreans say 4%.
So Koreans tell two different statistics. Lies, damn lies and statistics. Razz
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shakuhachi



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, these are Korea's forgotten people. Most Koreans that foreigners come into contact with tend to be middle class or wealthy. Korean students overseas almost always come from well off families. The people you dont see live in places like this.











Remember that the hot waitress you saw at that restaurant is probably working for less than $3 an hour, and probably comes from a place like those above. It explains why many Korean girls seem to think an English teacher in Korea is a good catch.
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