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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| red dog wrote: |
| At least we've all come to expect that kind of crap from DW and most of us know better than to bother trying to change his mind ... It sounds like Pollyplummer and Manner of Speaking want to hold up rapists and sexual harrassers as male role models. Anyone over 15 (male or female) should know that unwanted advances are not OK, they are boundary violations, and they are part of a continuum that includes criminal acts at one end. |
It's another topic for another thread, but a lot of Korean girls will insist upon them -- "unwanted" advances -- though a guy's supposed to wear his "no"-means-"yes" mindreader specs to discern between "unwanted" and unwanted. And I lost my pair. 
As for me, I'm into lollipop-headed Klingon-speaking Korean-reading girls.
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: first move |
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| pollyplummer wrote: |
| I like in your face kind of courage, even if he gets turned down... what's there to lose? A bit of pride? |
This reminds me of a recent conversation I had with a forum member, about someone in the same city as me. I "made a first move", came right out and told someone I liked her and cared for her...and she ran for the hills.
Guess I was ugly. 
Weird, because I had been getting very positive vibes from her for several weeks. As a guy, I was not impressed. I want a woman who respects honesty and openness from a man, not runs from it.
Quite frankly, when I saw her reaction, she dropped several notches in my esteem meter, and I lost all interest in her. Now she's dropping hints she wants to hang out again.
There are, however, plenty of fish in the sea. 
So the lesson, boys and girls, is...if someone has the courage to come right out and tell you they care for you...appreciate it. Even if you don't reciprocate the feelings.
Who knows, the shoe might be on the other foot some day. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. |
If your runner was Korean, I'd consider giving her another chance. A foreign guy coming out with a declaration, it would be reasonable for her to assume a relationship would ensue. Given the phenom of Korean parents, that can be a frightful thing for a Korean girl if she knows the *beep* would hit the fan if her parents found out. That aspect takes time to digest. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| red dog wrote: |
| It sounds like Pollyplummer and Manner of Speaking want to hold up rapists and sexual harrassers as male role models. Anyone over 15 (male or female) should know that unwanted advances are not OK, they are boundary violations, and they are part of a continuum that includes criminal acts at one end. |
What? 
I don't know what you were doing this morning, but I'd love to have a bag of it.
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So the lesson, boys and girls, is...if someone has the courage to come right out and tell you they care for you...appreciate it. Even if you don't reciprocate the feelings.
Who knows, the shoe might be on the other foot some day. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. |
I am talking about having feelings for people, and expressing those feelings directly. And about being able to handle the response. And doing onto others as they would have them do onto you.
Who said anything about sex? |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| red dog wrote: |
| It sounds like Pollyplummer and Manner of Speaking want to hold up rapists and sexual harrassers as male role models... |
...what it sounds like is that you are too infantile and emotionally retarded to be able to separate sex from emotions, and think that any expression of emotion by one person for another is a form of sexual harassment.
You have a lot of growing up to do. |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I said it was a continuum. Disrespecting someone's emotional boundaries is at one end and disrespecting their physical boundaries is at the other. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Bull***t you said it.
You said, "It sounds like Pollyplummer and Manner of Speaking want to hold up rapists and sexual harrassers as male role models."
Not only are you emotionally retarded, but you're a liar as well. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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MoS, I wish you wouldn't hold up rapists and sexual harassers as male role models. It's so wrong. 
And I wish people wouldn't spell it "harrassers", because that's so wrong, too.
(BTW, what the hell's happening to this thread?) |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Yes, that's what I said. Rapists are at one end of the continuum, sexual harassers are a little further over, and people who make inappropriate or suggestive comments are there too. Another example would be someone who keeps teasing a nondrinker and offering him/her drinks just to get a reaction -- it's not about sex, but it is a boundary violation.
Listen, you don't know me, so why don't you cut out the insults? I don't know you either and have no idea if you violated anyone's boundaries or not, but it could be that that's how the other person perceived the situation you wrote about. Maybe it was just a case of miscommunication. But I don't understand why you feel she should have appreciated your behaviour if it upset her or hurt her feelings in any way. |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I met a girl here who could speak fluent Klingon but couldn't even read Korean. Not my type. |
Oh, that must have been me. It's OK, you weren't my type either. |
Hab SoSlI' Quch! |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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MoS, I wish you wouldn't hold up rapists and sexual harassers as male role models. It's so wrong.
And I wish people wouldn't spell it "harrassers", because that's so wrong, too.
(BTW, what the hell's happening to this thread?) |
Thanks, I corrected the typo in my original post. I can't do anything about the way it appears in quotes, though.  |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: first move |
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| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
This reminds me of a recent conversation I had with a forum member, about someone in the same city as me. I "made a first move", came right out and told someone I liked her and cared for her...and she ran for the hills.
Guess I was ugly.
Weird, because I had been getting very positive vibes from her for several weeks. As a guy, I was not impressed. I want a woman who respects honesty and openness from a man, not runs from it.
Quite frankly, when I saw her reaction, she dropped several notches in my esteem meter, and I lost all interest in her. Now she's dropping hints she wants to hang out again.
There are, however, plenty of fish in the sea.
So the lesson, boys and girls, is...if someone has the courage to come right out and tell you they care for you...appreciate it. Even if you don't reciprocate the feelings.
Who knows, the shoe might be on the other foot some day. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. |
| pollyplummer wrote: |
| What do you mean "What about feminism?" Feminists spout a load of bullsh*t and for the most part, their agenda is not equality but rather superiority and special treatment. Their platform is also used as a vehicle for a host of other extremist issues. If a man has interest in a girl, he is a coward to hint around about it and not come forth and say something. I hate it when guys hint around that they'd like to hang out or whatever and then wait for the girl to ask him. I don't care what people say, I want leadership from him. He's stronger, he's built differently, he was made to lead. If he's not those things, then he's not getting any interest from me. |
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| At least we've all come to expect that kind of crap from DW and most of us know better than to bother trying to change his mind ... It sounds like Pollyplummer and Manner of Speaking want to hold up rapists and sexual harassers as male role models. Anyone over 15 (male or female) should know that unwanted advances are not OK, they are boundary violations, and they are part of a continuum that includes criminal acts at one end. |
"hi. my name is stan. i think you're very pretty. can i buy you a drink?" = "okay boys, hold her down." |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Not my type: pacifists, liberals, tree-huggers, vegetarians, atheists, jocks, potheads, or alcoholics.
Other than that, TMKATM, I would have to say that I like men. |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| The first symptom of true love in a young man is timidity; in a young girl it is boldness. --Victor Hugo |
Sucks to be pollyplumber. |
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pollyplummer
Joined: 07 Mar 2005
Location: McMinnvillve, Oregon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: true love |
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Sucks to be Victor Hugo if he really thinks that  well, and because he's dead. I've seen true love ignite boldness in men that would otherwise not be there. Sorry if you think that Victor Hugo is the authority on this. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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I like a guy with the right amount of game.
Too much game, and he seems insincere, shallow, and possibly dangerous.
Too little game, and he seems vulnerable, needy, and maybe dull.
In a nutshell: flirt, call occasionally, and make sure I know you've got plenty going on besides just me. This isn't guaranteed to lure me into a deep intimate relationship, but it's the sort of thing I'm into right now. |
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