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deeluvskitties
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: songpa-gu
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 Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: Maybe trouble getting good reference - help! |
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Over the last week I have had some altercations with my boss. The problem is I have about a month left in my contract, and am looking for a new job. I don't think I'm going to get a good reference (up until lately we have had a cold, but professional relationship, no problems or complaints on her half). Has anyone else been in this position (I'm sure a few of you have) and what is my best bet. Should I explain what is going on with my recruiters and potential jobs? Or maybe just hope my director isn't going that far? Or maybe just take my flight back to Toronto and apply for a job pretending that I have not been here before? Could a potential new school findout that I have been to Korea before through their part of the visa process? I really would like to find another job in Korea, but I think it might be hard if I am forced to disclose my present situation.
If you could give me some advice or relate your own experiences, that would be great.
PS. I do have a positive letter of reference from her, but I find most places want to talk on the phone to get a reference |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Possibly showing the prospective employer the positive letter and then saying the director is out of the country for 6 months. If no better suggestion comes in, it's worth a try. |
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Anasazi
Joined: 25 May 2005
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Get a friend to call in and interview her. If you are friendless - or have honest friends - sign up for another email address. Say you're Bill from Happy Go Lucky Hakwon, and you want an update of the teacher's experience since the recommendation. Or you don't accept paper recommendations. Or your phone service is cut off. Or you're out of the country, but eager to hire this teacher. Whatever.
If she's willing to give Bill a good reference, chances are decent that she'll give a good reference to other prospective employers. If not, Ya-ta's plan isn't bad. Alternately, if the prospective boss seems cool and really wants to know, you might consider telling the truth, especially if she did something heinous. It's not really a secret that there are some subpar bosses out there. (I prefer the vacation idea personally, but it's worth mentioning.) |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Yes, they can find out if you've had an E-2 before. They seem to have a "file" on me they pull out in front of my boss whenever I get a new E-2, or do a renewal.
It always bugs me that the have this, yet make me turn in my degree ... again... each time. I hear this time I'll have to send it in an envelope sealed by my University. |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Maybe trouble getting good reference - help! |
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| deeluvskitties wrote: |
| PS. I do have a positive letter of reference from her, but I find most places want to talk on the phone to get a reference |
last year, a potential employer, (or maybe even a recruiter) took the initialtive to FIND the phone numbers from previous jobs i had listed on my resume.
he called them without informing me.
months later, i went to visit my first and favorite wonjangnim and she asked "how is your new job? they called me. i said you were a good teacher" |
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Homer
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| It always bugs me that the have this, yet make me turn in my degree ... again... each time. I hear this time I'll have to send it in an envelope sealed by my University. |
Its a work visa Derrek...not a blockbusted video club membership card. They have to check and require documents. That is par for the course for many such administrative documents all over the world. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Its a work visa Derrek...not a blockbusted video club membership card. They have to check and require documents. That is par for the course for many such administrative documents all over the world. |
If that was true Homer there wouldnt be many illegal teachers in Korea. The problem is that instead of Immigration doing their job they just keep adding on requirements that make it a bit more of a hassle every year.
If they had half a brain they would keep track of people that worked in Korea. Not that difficult. Check their documents a couple of times and then rely on their recordkeeping instead of making FT's jump through hoops.
They do require documents but honestly how many do they check?
I can use my computer to print out an envelope with my uni's letterhead and stuff a set of transcripts in it. Are they correct? You betcha. Yet another way around their stupid requirements. |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
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i had a severely icy relationship with my boss. i waited until there was a situation where she was dependant on me for something (a presentation in front of a lot of parents) to ask her for a letter of reference. i got the same stock letter she gives to anyone who asks her.
you've already gotten to this point, so i guess this isn't very helpful. after that, i just hoped for the best. if the college i work at now did call her to check me out, i guess she didn't say anything too bad about me. i got the job, after all. good luck. |
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