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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| dogbert wrote: |
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| Don't worry boys, I'm not going to come chasing after you in dungarees and a number one haircut demanding your immediate submission and castration. |
And just why the hell not?!?!? |
He he! Wait while I find my scalpel... |
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Hwajangsil Ajumma
Joined: 02 May 2005
Location: On my knees in the stall
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| I like a good strong-shouldered man like The Rock, or, failing that, Johnny Knoxville. It's all about upper-body strength, whoa mama! I like the rough stuff. |
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Babayaga
Joined: 28 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:55 am Post subject: Re:First Move |
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 I've noticed from observation and from my own experience that if a woman has to make the first move ,it's usually because the guy is not interested in her. In the end,it doesn't work out,anyways,and the dating/relationship comes to an end. However,you can certainly get dates that way and learn about men and dating,so it's not a complete loss!
With regard to guys who are interested in a girl but who only make her aware of it indirectly(i.e.through other people),not making the first move(i.e. asking on a date) may indicate to a girl that he's just not that serious about her.Showing that you're seriously interested is very flattering and may lead the girl to reciprocate the feelings. I've heard a saying somewhere : "What is aflame sets afire",or something to that effect. Or,as Jane Austen made one of her characters say, showing interest may lead to feelings of " gratitude" and then affection! (Maybe I'm just too old-fashioned!)
Off course,if interest is shown by persistently ogling a girl in a sleazy,slimy way and by boorishly pursuing her despite her clear refusal to date him,then it's a really big turn--off! The girl will not feel any gratitude,just contempt and annoyance!  |
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sillywilly
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Canada.
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Girls love getting hit on by attractive guys.
Girls get offended when they are hit on by unattractive guys.
But seriously, people give signals before a move is made. You can often tell how an advance will be taken by body language, eye contact, smiling, hair fiddling, flexing.. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| "Ran for the hills" sounds pretty negative, and your original post suggested that her reaction was "wrong" because you're not "ugly." |
More merry bull shit.
"Ran for the hills" is humorous, not negative, and my original post didn't suggest a damn thing. I was amused and disappointed by her reaction, and changed my opinion of her as a result.
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| That's why I brought up rapists and sexual harassers -- because that's how they probably think too. If her reaction really wasn't all that negative, perhaps you should have been more clear. There's no need for hostility or insults. |
I don't need to do anything. YOU need to learn not to read the most negative of intentions into people's behavior right off the bat.
For example....if you think that's how rapists and sexual harassers think (I have no idea how they think, I have never been nor ever met either), then your actions suggest you spend far more time around rapists and sexual harassers than the average person.
You're probably a rapist yourself. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Guess I was ugly.   |
that's more like it. 'guess i was ugly' followed by a sad face and a laughing face. i don't see that as being particularly hostile. maybe i'm not sensitive enough. |
Thank you. Only a freak would interpret a statement like that as being hostile.  |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Anyway, MoS's point in posting was obviously to show that his behaviour in that situation was admirable and the woman's was not. |
Oh now you're telling me what I think. This is what I think, and this is what I said:
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I want a woman who respects honesty and openness from a man, not runs from it.
So the lesson, boys and girls, is...if someone has the courage to come right out and tell you they care for you...appreciate it. Even if you don't reciprocate the feelings.
Who knows, the shoe might be on the other foot some day. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. |
Who in the name of God said that her actions were "un-admirable" and mine were? WHO? I said I changed my opinon of her, after I saw the way she reacted, because ** I ** have values and expectations of what I want in a relationship. OH MY GOD, how dare I have opinions of my own, and pass judgements on whether or not I want to be in a relationship with someone I initially liked? How DARE I do something like that.
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| Unfortunately, many declarations of deep caring turn out to be manipulative attempts to take advantage of a person. |
Prove it. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Leave out the weasel words, prove that my telling someone that I liked them and cared for them was a manipulative attempt to take advantage of that person.
Prove it. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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The thing about a guy making a girl feel uncomfortable, upset, creeped-out, whatever, because he expressed his honest feelings toward her... Just how is he to know for sure that she'll take it so badly until that moment comes? And assuming the guy has behaved politely (as I'm sure MoS did), how the girl reacts is pretty much up to her. 'I'm flattered, but I'm spoken for. Thank you, but I'm not interested. Drop dead, you creep. Let me think about it. I feel the same way about you'. And so on. She can even respond with, 'By God, you've violated my boundary -- now back off! '
But just because a girl gives a guy the brush-off -- however nastily she does it -- doesn't put him on any continuum with harassers, miscreants and rapists. She's simply given him an answer. |
BINGO. And thank you. |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Leave out the weasel words, prove that my telling someone that I liked them and cared for them was a manipulative attempt to take advantage of that person.
Prove it. |
What? You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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There's nothing wrong with my reading comprehension, coward. But I have my doubts about yours.
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| Unfortunately, many declarations of deep caring turn out to be manipulative attempts to take advantage of a person. |
So prove it. You're just hiding behind weasel words, and suggesting that I was trying to manipulate that person and take advantage of them, by telling them I cared for them.
Since you seem to be such an expert on social relationships and sexual harassment, and since you seem to have people all figured out even though you've never met them, prove that I was trying to manipulate that particular person, and take advantage of them.
Go ahead. Take your best shot. |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| What proof do you need? What planet do you live on? I said it happens and people are right to be wary of it. You may or may not be a rapist, but you certainly sound like the kind of insensitive jerk this world would be much better off without. |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| red dog wrote: |
| What proof do you need? What planet do you live on? I said it happens and people are right to be wary of it. You may or may not be a rapist, but you certainly sound like the kind of insensitive jerk this world would be much better off without. |
what do you have against people who live on other planets? you're a rapist and a fascist. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| red dog wrote: |
| I said it happens and people are right to be wary of it. |
Prove that it happened in this instance. Since you are such an expert on what happens between people in all social situations.
Go ahead. We're all waiting. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Anybody else but me figured out by now where Daechidong Waygukin disappeared to? |
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