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dimnd



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Western USA

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:13 pm    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are lots of actions that your son can take- but he's gotta want to do something about his situation.

-He can pack up his stuff and just go home ( midnight run)
-He can quit his job.
-He can talk to the people at the labor board and ask them to help.
-He can talk to someone at immigration and have his visa cancelled- freeing him up to find a new and better job
-He can contact the people from EFL law.

Give him the information, but if he's old enough to be teaching here, he should be old enough to choose whatever option he feels is right.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happened to the advice to go check with the Labor board on your other thread on this issue, a week ago?
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps he can go to a locksmith and put a new lock on his door? If nothing else, it'll piss the director off for a while until he realizes that he can go to the locksmith and have his own key cut for the new lock. Maybe it's better for him to just tell his director that he doesn't want him showing up on his doorstep unannounced? No pay? Tell your son to keep asking for it. Koreans can be bloody persistent and don't really appreciate it when the shoe's on the other foot. After every class, "Where's my pay? When am I getting my pay? Calvin, or whomever, got his pay. Why not me? Where's my pay? I have to pay my bills. Where's my pay?" As for the belittlement, I wouldn't take that...
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

p.s. Get your son to get another diploma. When it arrives, have him go in to the school and show it to the director and say, "You can keep my diploma. I have another."
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
There are lots of actions that your son can take- but he's gotta want to do something about his situation.

-He can pack up his stuff and just go home ( midnight run)
-He can quit his job.
-He can talk to the people at the labor board and ask them to help.
-He can talk to someone at immigration and have his visa cancelled- freeing him up to find a new and better job
-He can contact the people from EFL law.

Give him the information, but if he's old enough to be teaching here, he should be old enough to choose whatever option he feels is right.

change the locks. should be at the top of this list
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate you wanting to help your son, but he needs to help himself first. He definately needs to go to the labor board. Get something started now. Later might be too late. Also, I would definately suggest changing the locks.

After your son goes to the labor board, his boss will hit the roof. He will threaten to fire him, and probably threaten to have him deported. He can't do this if your son logs his complaint with the labor board. The boss will be blowing a lot of hot air.

I know this must be annoying for you, but you son has to do something about this. He should get a Korean friend and visit the labor board -- then make the complaint.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mean to sound cruel but does he really need mommy holding his hand through all this.....

HE is in korea
HE has a lot more control, over the situation than you...

He really needs to take some action and do something about it instead of his mom coming on here and asking questions on what to do......

Maybe the problem is you have been doing everything for him all his life and now he can't stand up to anything without you.....he is a pushover so to speak..

Why can't he get on here ask he questions, we can give him answers and then he can get on with it instead of you realaying the answers..

I can assure you if he is in Gumi, he has ready internet access, if you can figure this out I'm sure he can......
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think of this as an advantage to help him learn. This will be a good experience for him. Just tell him what we've said to do, and encourage him to be strong. Korea isn't the most fair place in the world, but situations such as your son is in are common here. Unless your boss has some grevious reason for acting the way he does, then the Labor Board will likely side with your boy.

Too many directors pull this kind of crap. They've seen it before.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: HELP school director entering teacher home with own key Reply with quote

dimnd wrote:
Cambridge School in Gumi has a director that accesses my son's apartment when he chooses. He walked into my son's apartment while he and other teachers from the same school were socializing and berated my son.

meanwhile my son is not receiving pay ..yet the Canadian, Evan, at Cambridge school as well as another Korean teacher and the secretary have received May pay already in full. My son still has not gotten all of March.

A diploma has not been returned even though it has been asked and asked for..

any ideas...contract has 3 months to go..



did you not read our advice LAST time?
you said you will give your son access to this site so HE can speak for himself.
why haven't you done that?


for the diploma : tell the boss if he doesn't return it, the police will be clled
for the apartment : go to a locksmith a good distance from the apartment and get the lock changed.
for the pay : GO TO THE LABOR BOARD
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm starting to think this is a twisted joke of some kind.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eye wrote:
i'm starting to think this is a twisted joke of some kind.

What do we have now? Mom & son ESL-teaching tag-teams in Korea? Confused

Does anyone recall the last poster who had a relative in country working in the ESL biz?
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poster, we all have these problems, we all deal with these problems without our parents. I can understand the concern. Sometimes adult children nned to help their parents out. Here in Korea, the oldest boy feeds and cares for the parents. That might explain your concern.

Being out of the US or Canada is an eye opener, we are quite spoiled at home or at least are treated in a considerate manner. Here there is little recourse after abuse so we have become resourceful and self reliant and thats good.

The first jobs are usually bad with lots of bad stories and they are usually true. He'll be OK.
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
I don't mean to sound cruel but does he really need mommy holding his hand through all this.....

HE is in korea
HE has a lot more control, over the situation than you...

He really needs to take some action and do something about it instead of his mom coming on here and asking questions on what to do......

Maybe the problem is you have been doing everything for him all his life and now he can't stand up to anything without you.....he is a pushover so to speak..

Why can't he get on here ask he questions, we can give him answers and then he can get on with it instead of you realaying the answers..

I can assure you if he is in Gumi, he has ready internet access, if you can figure this out I'm sure he can......


I think that is quite uncalled for. If it's a genuine post then she's just trying to find out information which might help her son. That's perfectly natural. You can only make wild guesses about her relationship with her boy and you may be way off the mark. Show a few manners.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
just because wrote:
I don't mean to sound cruel but does he really need mommy holding his hand through all this.....

HE is in korea
HE has a lot more control, over the situation than you...

He really needs to take some action and do something about it instead of his mom coming on here and asking questions on what to do......

Maybe the problem is you have been doing everything for him all his life and now he can't stand up to anything without you.....he is a pushover so to speak..

Why can't he get on here ask he questions, we can give him answers and then he can get on with it instead of you realaying the answers..

I can assure you if he is in Gumi, he has ready internet access, if you can figure this out I'm sure he can......


I think that is quite uncalled for. If it's a genuine post then she's just trying to find out information which might help her son. That's perfectly natural. You can only make wild guesses about her relationship with her boy and you may be way off the mark. Show a few manners.



yeah, but she asked the same questions last week on his behalf.
she also said she will give her password to her son so HE can speak here.
she still hasn't done that.


don't you think that's strange?
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