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Murder Rate Dropping in the States

 
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:20 am    Post subject: Murder Rate Dropping in the States Reply with quote

Chicago leads drop in murders
Violent offenses down nationwide; property crime, arson also decline

By Pete Yost
Associated Press
Published June 7, 2005

WASHINGTON -- With Chicago leading the way, the number of murders fell last year for the first time since 1999, part of a nationwide decline in all types of violent crime, according to FBI data released Monday.

Cities with more than 1 million people had the greatest decrease in violent crime, 5.4 percent, while cities under 10,000 saw the greatest decrease in murder, 12.2 percent.

Murders fell by 3.6 percent from the 16,500 reported in 2003, meaning there were nearly 600 fewer.

Chicago was largely responsible for the drop. The city led the nation in homicides in two of the three previous years, so leaders there launched a law-enforcement effort that drove down the number of murders to 448 last year from 598 in 2003.

Criminal justice experts say the decline was something of a surprise because gang-related activity is increasing in some parts of the country, the economy is sputtering in some areas, the number of at-risk youth is rising and law-enforcement budgets are experiencing cuts.

"At this point, even slight improvements are very good news," said Northeastern University criminal justice professor James Alan Fox.

Alfred Blumstein, a criminal justice expert with the H. John Heinz III School of Public Policy and Management at Carnegie-Mellon University, said, "It's nice that it dropped, but the drops were by no means universal."

Murders in the western U.S. rose 0.4 percent, and violent crime rose in some smaller and medium-size cities.

With more than 12,700 law-enforcement agencies reporting, the FBI's preliminary data show the number of violent crimes decreased 1.7 percent in 2004 compared with 2003, while property crime fell 1.8 percent.

Violent crimes are rape, robbery, aggravated assault and homicides including murder and manslaughter. Property crimes include burglaries, larceny/theft and car theft. Every category saw a drop from 2003.

Arson, measured separately, saw the biggest drop of all--6.8 percent.

All four of the nation's regions showed decreases in violent crime, with the Northeast dropping the most, 2.6 percent, followed by the West (2 percent), Midwest (1.5 percent) and South (1.2 percent).

Property crime was down in three of four regions and declined in cities of all sizes: The drops were 3.5 percent in the Midwest, 2.5 percent in the Northeast and 2 percent in the South. The decline in the West was less than 0.1 percent.

There were some increases. Cities with populations of 250,000 to 500,000 had a 1.3 percent rise in violent crime, and in cities of 25,000 to 50,000, it was 1.1 percent. Cities of 25,000 to 50,000 showed a 1.7 percent increase in murders, and those with populations of 10,000 to 25,000 showed a 0.8 percent increase.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand, the incarceration rate is at all times high.

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More than 5.6 million Americans are in prison or have served time there, according to a new report by the Justice Department released Sunday. That's 1 in 37 adults living in the United States, the highest incarceration level in the world.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0818/p02s01-usju.html
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funplanet



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently saw crime stats which show Seoul as having a crime rate 1.5 times higher than NYC...that included violent crimes as well...
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New York City is a very impressively LOW crime stat city.

Something like 125th in the nation.. pretty impressive since it has the reputation of actually being higher than that.

I lived there for 2 1/2 years.. never felt safe anywhere in the U.S. than I did while living in Manhattan, NYC.
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Teufelswacht



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: Murder Rate Dropping in the States Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:
Chicago leads drop in murders
Violent offenses down nationwide; property crime, arson also decline

By Pete Yost
Associated Press
Published June 7, 2005

WASHINGTON -- With Chicago leading the way, the number of murders fell last year for the first time since 1999, part of a nationwide decline in all types of violent crime, according to FBI data released Monday.

.......



Whenever I read a story like the one above, I remember another AP story from 2004...

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Lost Police Reports Hint at Problems

AP
Sat Mar 20, 6:35 PM ET

By MARK NIESSE, Associated Press Writer

ATLANTA - Police in Atlanta recently revealed they were missing 22,000 crime reports from a single year. While the underreporting shocked many civilians, it was no surprise for those in law enforcement, who are well aware that agencies across the country lose or alter crime reports to burnish their widely reported crime statistics.

In New York, a police captain was accused of routinely downgrading crime reports so he'd look good in the eyes of his superiors. Philadelphia's Sex Crimes Unit dismissed as non-crimes several thousand reports of rape in 1999. And in Baltimore, an information technology worker quit in December over claims the city's crime reporting was wildly inaccurate.

"It's been a chronic problem," said Samuel Walker, a criminal justice professor at the University of Nebraska at Omaha who runs the Web site www.policeaccountability.org. "But then again, no one knows exactly how serious it is. There's no real accounting, no real auditing."

Police and experts say crime rates never are all that accurate, since the job of crime reporting is mostly left to the police themselves — and police are under constant pressure to show crime rates are dropping.

Even the FBI (news - web sites)'s national crime reports are known to be only vaguely accurate, since they too rely on reports from police.

"Criminologists have known for years that crime statistics are not reliable," said Robert Friedmann, a criminal justice professor at Georgia State University.

The problem, Friedmann said, can be caused by pressure from politicians who want to put a good face on crime, or by officers who fear for their jobs. The solution may involve more independent assessments like Atlanta's.

For the most part, the public would only find out if crimes are being downgraded — or if incidents are tucked into a dark corner — when there's a scandal.

The exception is a department such as Atlanta's, which ordered an independent audit to come clean on its misreporting problem. Only a few other cities — including Boston and New Orleans — have done the same.

Atlanta's audit said the city underreported crimes for years to help land the 1996 Olympics and pump up tourism. In 2002 alone, there were more than 22,000 missing police reports, 4,281 of which could have been counted as violent offenses.

Despite the distorted figures, Atlanta ranked No. 1 or No. 2 in violent crimes such as rape and murder in nine of the last 10 years, according to FBI crime data, which is compiled from reports submitted by police departments.

"Soon after coming here, I discovered that the systems and practice of the Atlanta police department were essentially broken," Chief Richard Pennington said in the audit.

Pennington has proposed a number of reforms, including accounting for crimes from the time a 911 call is made.

In Broward County, Fla., which includes Fort Lauderdale, the state attorney's office is investigating reports that deputies cooked crime statistics so evaluations of the department would go more smoothly.

"Crimes are reclassified every day. If someone has a broken window, they may dial 911 and say their house was robbed. It may turn out it was a burglary, perhaps it was criminal mischief," said sheriff's spokesman Jim Leljedal.

Sometimes, as in Baltimore's case, the crime statistics were simply miscategorized, said police spokesman Matt Jablow.

"In no case did we find that any allegations of rape were uninvestigated," Jablow said. "No one came forward and said, 'No one investigated my rape.'"


So crime reporting often comes down to the integrity and ethics of police officers.

In New York, 70 sergeants rallied in front of a Queens station house with a 15-foot inflatable rat this month as they demanded the ouster of Capt. Sheldon Howard, who they say reduces the severity of crimes so his statistics look better than they are.

"If Howard's numbers are good, he doesn't get called up and he looks like a star," said Sergeants Benevolent Association President Ed Mullins. "It's a regular pattern and practice that exists in that precinct."

New York police spokeswoman Chris Filipazzo would not comment because of an ongoing investigation.

In Atlanta, meanwhile, police believe the audit may have overstated its case. The accounting of the problem could have been exaggerated because crimes get repeatedly re-categorized in different computers, said Sgt. John Quigley.

"If there were a lot of reports missing, I would have thought letters to the editor would have reflected the frustration of the citizenry," he said.



http://news.onemissingperson.org/GA-MAR-20-2004-1835e-Lost-Police-Reports-Hint-at-Problems.html
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W.T.Carl



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US crime rate is down because : a) most of the criminals are in the pokey or b) the US economy is healthy. Take your pick.
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:32 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Quote:
The US crime rate is down because : a) most of the criminals are in the pokey or b) the US economy is healthy. Take your pick.


The US crime rate is down because a) "Carl" says most of the criminals are in the pokey or b) "Carl" says that the US economy is healthy. Take your pick.


The US crime rate is down because a) "Carl" is not in America b) "Carl" wears women's clothing. Take your pick.

The US crime rate is down because a) "Carl" doesn't like turnips b) "Carl" prefers beets.

The US crime rate is down because a) "Carl" supports Bush b) "Carl" supports Cheney.

The US crime rate is down because of a) American Idol b) Survivor.

The US crime rate is down because a) Oakland b) the A's.

The US crime rate is down because a) [Insert Carl's masturbation fantasy] b) [Insert Carl's wet dream].

The US crime rate is down because a) Tastes great b) Less filling.
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.T.Carl wrote:
The US crime rate is down because : a) most of the criminals are in the pokey or b) the US economy is healthy. Take your pick.



probably a bit of both and then some......but that's not the point....

15 years ago, Chicagoans were killing each other at a rate of like 1,300 per year.

Now it's down to 450.


one would think that a 70% reduction in murder in Chicago would result in an improved safety image for the city (and America at large).

Maybe the musical 'Chicago' prevented that......
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted on another thread how there is a theory that today's decrease in violent crime is directly correlated to "Roe v. Wade" and the ease of obtaining abortions.

I believe it.
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