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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:09 am Post subject: Names, addresses who gave up Korean nationality revealed |
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Names of 1,077 Abandoning Korean Nationality Revealed
The Ministry of Justice has made public a list of 1,077 people who gave up their Korean citizenship from May 6-23 just before the new Nationality Act took effect on May 24.
Personal information, such as names, addresses and the names of their fathers were revealed. But their fathers' occupations were not disclosed. It said 96.8 percent of them are male, which could indicate they were motivated to avoid compulsory military service. The previous nationality law required boys with dual citizenship to choose one of country before the age of 17.
Under the new law, however, men with dual citizenship will not be allowed to give up their Korean nationality unless they first complete the obligatory military service.
By Lee Yong-sung, Korea Times (June 7, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200506/kt2005060719292210230.htm |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| "We all secrectly want to leave Korea for a new life in the USA or Canada, but anyone who actually does is a traitor". |
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Hwajangsil Ajumma
Joined: 02 May 2005
Location: On my knees in the stall
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Apart from the new law, 45.8 percent of 1,237 college students surveyed by the local job portal Job Link (www.joblink.co.kr) replied they would give up their Korean citizenship if necessary.
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Ha. So much for "Korea no.1". I wonder what the "necessary" reasons might be? |
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ulsanchris
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| Thats pretty low revealing the names of the people. |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| OMG.. and they call this country democratic?! There is NOTHING democratic about this country. It's totally absurd that a government would choose to do something like this. They really have no respect for privacy, do they?? |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| I know that you can't serve in the military of two countries, and I'm sure that there's far more benefits to serving in the US or Canadian forces than in Korea's. wonder how they're gonna manage that loophole? |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| Such negativity on this board. This is pretty low I'll admit though. Please defend this rash knee jerk decision apologists. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| Wow that's just vindictive. I wonder how many Koreans will get murdered or beaten because every nut in Korea now has their address? |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Releasing the names and addresses is just assinine. Total stupidity.
You might as well stamp a big "SORE LOSER" stamp on the head of every Korean gov't official who sided with this. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:47 am Post subject: |
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it was pretty controversial in Canada when they wanted to release the names and whereabouts of sex offenders who'd completed their jail term. Should we consider ethnic Koreans who wish to give up citizenship in the same way?
It shouldn't be a big surprise that Koreans don't really have a concept of privacy though- they ask everything but the color of your underwear just to log into a site like bugs music. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| it was pretty controversial in Canada when they wanted to release the names and whereabouts of sex offenders who'd completed their jail term. Should we consider ethnic Koreans who wish to give up citizenship in the same way? |
Well. sex offendors a) have actually broken the law, and b) can be reasonably construed as a threat to the public safety. Once you are convicted of having broken the law, you sort of forfeit some of your rights.
This reasoning doesn't apply to people who are guilty of nothing more than legally renouncing their citizenship. So yes, I would say it is a pretty clear and arbitrary violation of privacy rights, at least by western standards. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Please defend this rash knee jerk decision apologists.
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I do get a kick out of this assumption that the people commonly known as "apologists" will defend every single thing that goes on in Korea. Like, every time Koreans do something stupid it's "whaddya gotta say about THIS, you apologists?!!" As if defending one aspect of Korea implies that you should be willing to defend the whole kit and kaboodle.
I used to log in a lot of hours defending Korea and Koreans on this board, but it was always on a case-by-case basis. With the possible exception of the late lamented cpa, I really have no idea who these "blanket coverage" apologists might be. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| But most of the esteemed people on this board were in favour of compelling people to choose nationalities! When this was proposed most of you were in favour of the move, you just didn't think it through. Korea will always be Korea. You think they were motivated by high-minded sentiments in doing that? Sentiments like honour, duty and obligation? Ha. They were motivated by resentment and anger that some people had the money and wherewithal (read: English skills) to get dual citizenship for their children. And you lapped it up. Now swallow. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:40 am Post subject: |
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But most of the esteemed people on this board were in favour of compelling people to choose nationalities! When this was proposed most of you were in favour of the move, you just didn't think it through. Korea will always be Korea. You think they were motivated by high-minded sentiments in doing that? Sentiments like honour, duty and obligation? Ha. They were motivated by resentment and anger that some people had the money and wherewithal (read: English skills) to get dual citizenship for their children. And you lapped it up. Now swallow.
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I will say that I think it's a bit hypocritical to expect citizenship from a country that is protected by a conscript army, while at the same time taking steps to ensure that your own kids are exempt from military service. However, that doesn't preclude thinking that it's wrong for the government to arbitrarily violate the privacy of people who haven't actually commited any crime. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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But most of the esteemed people on this board were in favour of compelling people to choose nationalities! When this was proposed most of you were in favour of the move, you just didn't think it through. Korea will always be Korea. You think they were motivated by high-minded sentiments in doing that? Sentiments like honour, duty and obligation? Ha. They were motivated by resentment and anger that some people had the money and wherewithal (read: English skills) to get dual citizenship for their children. And you lapped it up. Now swallow.
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I will say that I think it's a bit hypocritical to expect citizenship from a country that is protected by a conscript army, while at the same time taking steps to ensure that your own kids are exempt from military service. However, that doesn't preclude thinking that it's wrong for the government to arbitrarily violate the privacy of people who haven't actually commited any crime. |
I mean check out the other discussion on Internet witch hunts
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=39774
The government has to know these names will end up on the Internet and Koreans will take action. It's almost tacit approval for Koreans to murder them.
Remember those Korean women who appeared in the ES wet tshirt contest? They were identified on a Korean message board as, of course, race traitors and they had to go in hiding. 1077 Koreans are about to quit their jobs and go into hiding... |
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