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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Internet 'witch-hunts' in Korea Reply with quote

Internet 'witch-hunts' often target innocents
On Monday, the hottest issue on some Korean Web sites was a photo of a woman in her 20s who got off a subway car without cleaning up her dog's droppings. As the photo circulated, the woman was dubbed the "dog dung girl," and some Internet users decided she was a public enemy. They began visiting the Web site of the university they assumed the woman attended, and bombarding it with postings. The site's server went down because of the surge in traffic. Then people began calling the university, where a staff member finally looked at the photo and said there was no such student at the university."This is causing us enormous pain," the staffer said. Some experts say that such "cyber witch-hunts" are becoming a serious problem in Korea, as individuals are harassed by large numbers of Internet users--often based on information that turns out to be wrong.

Last April, relatives of a 30-year-old woman who committed suicide after her boyfriend broke up with her wrote about him online. Soon, the location of his workplace and even his cell phone number were being circulated. He eventually quit his job.
by Sohn Hae-yong and Kwon Ho, JoongAng Ilbo (June 8, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200506/07/200506072236518109900090409041.html
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's the online witchhunt for all those cars that are illegally parked, or for the smokers who throw their cigarette butts everywhere?
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rapier



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywoodaction wrote:
Where's the online witchhunt for all those cars that are illegally parked, or for the smokers who throw their cigarette butts everywhere?

Ajjoshis are never the target of witch hunts. Agashis entering wet T-shirt contests with waeguks, on the other hand..
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On the other hand



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Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where's the online witchhunt for all those cars that are illegally parked, or for the smokers who throw their cigarette butts everywhere?


Actually, several students have told me about a mini-industry in Korea of people who videotape speeders and other traffic violators and then send the pictures into the police to net a cash reward. And apparently, they've now switched to going after people who take out their trash without recycling properly. Probably not happening on the internet, though.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
Hollywoodaction wrote:
Where's the online witchhunt for all those cars that are illegally parked, or for the smokers who throw their cigarette butts everywhere?

Ajjoshis are never the target of witch hunts. Agashis entering wet T-shirt contests with waeguks, on the other hand..


I was being sarcastic.
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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Where's the online witchhunt for all those cars that are illegally parked, or for the smokers who throw their cigarette butts everywhere?


Actually, several students have told me about a mini-industry in Korea of people who videotape speeders and other traffic violators and then send the pictures into the police to net a cash reward. And apparently, they've now switched to going after people who take out their trash without recycling properly. Probably not happening on the internet, though.



There is this "video van" that is sometimes parked in the Japanese area of Itaewon. It has a camera mounted inside of the bumper, a $3 million won camera mounted on the dash, and lots of other video equipment pointing out in all directions. It was the oddest-looking thing. I would assume this belongs to such a person.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually, several students have told me about a mini-industry in Korea of people who videotape speeders and other traffic violators and then send the pictures into the police to net a cash reward



From what I hear, people stake out their territory and defend it. Reasonable, since they can make a living from turning in traffic violators. If memory serves, some make as much as W3 million a month.

I'll bet Real Reality has a link for this.
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chronicpride



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That whole article made me laugh as it captures Korean online culture so well. Laughing
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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Actually, several students have told me about a mini-industry in Korea of people who videotape speeders and other traffic violators and then send the pictures into the police to net a cash reward

From what I hear, people stake out their territory and defend it. Reasonable, since they can make a living from turning in traffic violators. If memory serves, some make as much as W3 million a month.
I'll bet Real Reality has a link for this.


Snitches Earn Good Living On the Street
Some 4,000 vehicles were reported to the police last week for making illegal U-turns in front of Dunkin' Donuts on Teheran street in southern Seoul, and one man, Oh Chul-soo, 35, is about 12 million won ($9200) richer for his efforts.
by Jung Hyo-sik, JoongAng Daily (May 10, 2001)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200105/10/200105100056481659900090409041.html

'Civilian Paparazzi' Zooming In On Errant Bus and Taxi Drivers
The drivers said they now strictly observe traffic regulations thanks to the so-called "civilian paparazzi," who take pictures of traffic violations and report them to the police. It has been five months since the police began paying 3,000 won ($2.30) for photos of traffic infractions and police officers said the number of traffic violations has gone down in many areas.
by Sung Ho-jun, JoongAng Daily (July 25, 2001)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200107/25/200107252343141879900090409041.html

Traffic paparazzi likely to quit clicking when reward drops
by Kang Joo-an, JoongAng Daily (September 16, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200209/16/200209160049540549900090409041.html

Jeonju students training to shoot traffic violators
by Seo Hyung-sik, JoongAng Daily (October 16, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200210/16/200210160154213219900090409041.html

New headache for restaurants: Whistle-blowers with cameras
by Park Tae-kyun, JoongAng Daily (February 10, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200502/10/200502102219389079900090409041.html

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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor girl- the only reason she probably didn't pick up after her dog was that she forgot a plastic baggie; already used up her supply of baggies due to her dog being very poopie that day; couldn't find anything useful (i.e a wayward piece of trash lying around, like a newspaper), etc. I've been stuck in this situation before, but I usually ask if anyone has any tissue, and the problem is solved. MAYBE she just didn't care, but I have noticed most people are pretty conscientious on the subway (mothers cleaning up after their kid if the kid spills something, etc.)

I just think it's horrible for people to be so self-righteous. Being passive-aggressive and posting on the net is lame.

I recently read an article in People magazine. The writer was a smoker, and she said she was having a smoke outside of a restaurant. The doors and windows to the restaurant were closed, but a patron came out, and threatened to throw his soda in her face because she "completely ruined his lunch and he felt nauseated" due to her smoking. What an ass.
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ulsanchris



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apparently she was also really rude to the old woman who told her to pick up after the dog.


I think the people who posted the stuff about her are worse than the girl for not picking up after her dog
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha.

"Execution without trial video in North Korea"
(shrug)

"Girl fails to clean up after dog in park, rude to old woman"
( Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad )





"Over 60% of married women consider having affairs; red-light districts and juicy bars don't need to waste time trying to recruit women anymore as they come to them"
(shrug)

"Wet t-shirt party in Hongdae with young unmarried people"
( Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad )




S. Korea's not the only country that does this sort of thing, of course.
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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S. Korea's not the only country that does this sort of thing, of course


Does Korea have a bill of rights? I would consider this kind of thing to be a gross invasion of my privacy if it happened.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does Korea have a bill of rights? I would consider this kind of thing to be a gross invasion of my privacy if it happened.


As far as I know, even things like the American Bill Of Rights and the Canadian Charter don't cover having your picture taken and displayed. They might be able to pass laws against that sort of thing, but I don't think they'd fall under BoR protection.


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joe_doufu



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Taiwan there is a plague of "pinhole cameras", not the kind you made in junior high school with an actual pin, but small cheap disposable video spycams. Somebody put one in a politician's bedroom when I was in Taiwan, and got video of her having sex with her boyfriend (not an illicit affair or anything) and made a lot of money selling it islandwide. Taiwanese apparently put them in bathrooms, bedrooms, all over the place. Taiwan girls (a little bird told me) are paranoid about undressing in other's homes because of the fear that cameras are watching them.
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