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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride
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| prosodic wrote: |
My suggestion: sue for slander and defamation of character.
In Korea, according to Korean law, it doesn't matter if it's true or not. If it was said or written, and if it negatively affects your reputation, then it is slander and you can take them to court and win big money.
If you want to be nice about it, then remind people of this fact which most of them, if they are educated, probably already know. Letting them know that you know this aspect of Korean law will probably be enough to get them to stop. |
What the freak do you know about court? If someone assaults you, you don't get squat unless you show damages = doctor bills. There are no punitive damages in korea. if your name is defamed you(at least foreigners) MUST show that you were damaged monetarily. that is the law with koreans as well but i'm sure the judge could rule whatever he wants against a foreigner. But, the law states you can't get squat unless you show damages. Note that! |
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turtlepi1
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| buymybook wrote: |
| prosodic wrote: |
My suggestion: sue for slander and defamation of character.
In Korea, according to Korean law, it doesn't matter if it's true or not. If it was said or written, and if it negatively affects your reputation, then it is slander and you can take them to court and win big money.
If you want to be nice about it, then remind people of this fact which most of them, if they are educated, probably already know. Letting them know that you know this aspect of Korean law will probably be enough to get them to stop. |
What the freak do you know about court? If someone assaults you, you don't get squat unless you show damages = doctor bills. There are no punitive damages in korea. if your name is defamed you(at least foreigners) MUST show that you were damaged monetarily. that is the law with koreans as well but i'm sure the judge could rule whatever he wants against a foreigner. But, the law states you can't get squat unless you show damages. Note that! |
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turtlepi1
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| prosodic wrote: |
My suggestion: sue for slander and defamation of character.
In Korea, according to Korean law, it doesn't matter if it's true or not. If it was said or written, and if it negatively affects your reputation, then it is slander and you can take them to court and win big money.
If you want to be nice about it, then remind people of this fact which most of them, if they are educated, probably already know. Letting them know that you know this aspect of Korean law will probably be enough to get them to stop. |
What the freak do you know about court? If someone assaults you, you don't get squat unless you show damages = doctor bills. There are no punitive damages in korea. if your name is defamed you(at least foreigners) MUST show that you were damaged monetarily. that is the law with koreans as well but i'm sure the judge could rule whatever he wants against a foreigner. But, the law states you can't get squat unless you show damages. Note that! |
Changing a tire doesn't make you a mechanic, hun. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| prosodic wrote: |
My suggestion: sue for slander and defamation of character.
In Korea, according to Korean law, it doesn't matter if it's true or not. If it was said or written, and if it negatively affects your reputation, then it is slander and you can take them to court and win big money.
If you want to be nice about it, then remind people of this fact which most of them, if they are educated, probably already know. Letting them know that you know this aspect of Korean law will probably be enough to get them to stop. |
What the freak do you know about court? If someone assaults you, you don't get squat unless you show damages = doctor bills. There are no punitive damages in korea. if your name is defamed you(at least foreigners) MUST show that you were damaged monetarily. that is the law with koreans as well but i'm sure the judge could rule whatever he wants against a foreigner. But, the law states you can't get squat unless you show damages. Note that! |
Though none of them involved any physical assault on person or property, my three (count 'em) dances with Korean courts all support this assertion. Must show monetary damages. (Not so very hard to do in cases of physical attack, as trumped-up hospital bills is a thriving business here.) |
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
Location: ����
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, ok. But I still think it couldn't hurt to threaten the neighbor lady with a lawsuit, you know, a very gentle, "if you don't stop spreading rumors about me, then I'm going to sue." I see upside (her stopping) but very little downside (if she continues, then she would have with or without a threat). |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Can anyone top this nightmare story |
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| Basically they have crossed the line and infiltrated my private life in a town where I already cannot hide. |
Not to be too mean, but in this sentence you gave an explaination for your own problem. Can't tell you how communal the locals become when a foreigner is in their mist. You have no private life in a small town. Everything you do is watched and talked about about. Korean society doesn't recongise your needs as a human being, for in this small town you aren't really fully human. It is impossible to fight the trible mentality of the locals. If you must have a full life in a small town, you must keep it a secret. I know you didn't nothing yourself you thought was wrong, the the local tribe of DNA ownership did. |
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Squid
Joined: 25 Jul 2003
Location: Sunny Anyang
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to raise the weatherman...
Let's get this straight:
OP has been here in Korea for 5 years, accepted a job in a small community, and presumably doesn't speak enough of the language yet to stick up for himself or at least tell nosy-parkers where to get off... also hasn't bothered to offer any advice to anyone on this forum during that period.
Boo Hoo  run along back into Apkujong. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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A sad story. I'd say the hell with and do whatever I like that is legal. And if I got fired, cool, who wants to work for jerks?
Let's see, waygook is here to teach English, but not allowed to have a life outside work? Easy to see why many bail. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:50 am Post subject: |
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I'd stay - strut around town looking down on everyone like they were t urds you just wiped off your shoe. And if they meet your eye, smile at them like they are silly little monkeys in funny costumes.
It will eat them up inside. |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| Don't put up with it. Life is way too short. I've always said that working in small town Korea is a deathwish. I did it and I'll never do it again. Quit. Pure and simple. Your are not a slave, indentured servant,etc. You are free to leave anytime. Now, if you want to continue to work, you're going to have to get the release letter. But I would rather keep my pride and go in and say that they've got one month to find a replacement.. Don't let them get you down.... |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Just beware if you give notice you may get burned on money. And it probably will not be a fun month. But anyone can live a rough month I guess. |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Location, location, location.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:28 am Post subject: |
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This kind of thing is normal in a small town here. Just be glad that you aren't a woman--trust me; you would have even less privacy and virtually no freedom. I try not to get into towns with fewer than 100,000 and even within those, it can be a real nightmare.
How would you like it if the druggist notified your boss that you are buying birth control pills, and therefore, sleeping around and proving yourself to be a *beep* with no morals and therefore unfit to be a children's teacher?
How would you like to have your apartment routinely inspected, the contents of your fridge examined and criticized? Or to be told to stop openly flirting with married men when all you've done is tried your best to get away from the drunk men leering, making suggestive comments, and grabbing parts of your body?
Or, to be told that, you may not be outside at a certain time of night for any reason at all?
There's the getting grabbed in the street by old women who want to confirm whether or not "they" are real. These would be the same old women who rummage through your bags as you are leaving the supermarket so that they can talk about what you've bought.
Or to have your medical history gossiped about in the entire town and it's all based on facts because your doctor started the gossip?
Or to be told by your boss that you are not permitted to smoke? And you don't, but the supermarket clerk informed your boss that you bought a cigarette lighter--he just doesn't know that you need it to melt the wax on the hook you want to put on your wall.
And how about getting told that you need to learn to show appreciation for your stalker. After all, it's ROMANTIC that he follows you everywhere, climbs the trees outside to try to look in your window, phones you up constantly at home and at work and when he grabs you and starts pulling you into his car, he's only expressing his love for you and you are just a foreigner, but he's a Korean, so you should appreciate your great luck that he is paying any attention to you at all. And why would you think that small town cops would be no help at all? They are always willing to come down hard on one of their own.
That's being a foreign female teacher in a small town in Korea. I'm sure some of that applies to men as well.
If I were in your situation, I WOULD quit and I'd go work somewhere bigger where people aren't so bored with their own lives that they have to mess around with other people's. I DID quit the job where all of the above happened and I was certainly much happier when I got away from that place.
yes, I love Korea==but that is partly because I am much better about not getting myself into those kind of situations anymore. Small towns are not for me (not in any country). |
Reminds me of Royston Vasey, a charming place.
http://www.lofg.com/character_profile.php?profile_id=34 |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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This kind of thing is normal in a small town here. Just be glad that you aren't a woman--trust me; you would have even less privacy and virtually no freedom. I try not to get into towns with fewer than 100,000 and even within those, it can be a real nightmare.
How would you like it if the druggist notified your boss that you are buying birth control pills, and therefore, sleeping around and proving yourself to be a *beep* with no morals and therefore unfit to be a children's teacher?
How would you like to have your apartment routinely inspected, the contents of your fridge examined and criticized? Or to be told to stop openly flirting with married men when all you've done is tried your best to get away from the drunk men leering, making suggestive comments, and grabbing parts of your body?
Or, to be told that, you may not be outside at a certain time of night for any reason at all?
There's the getting grabbed in the street by old women who want to confirm whether or not "they" are real. These would be the same old women who rummage through your bags as you are leaving the supermarket so that they can talk about what you've bought.
Or to have your medical history gossiped about in the entire town and it's all based on facts because your doctor started the gossip?
Or to be told by your boss that you are not permitted to smoke? And you don't, but the supermarket clerk informed your boss that you bought a cigarette lighter--he just doesn't know that you need it to melt the wax on the hook you want to put on your wall.
And how about getting told that you need to learn to show appreciation for your stalker. After all, it's ROMANTIC that he follows you everywhere, climbs the trees outside to try to look in your window, phones you up constantly at home and at work and when he grabs you and starts pulling you into his car, he's only expressing his love for you and you are just a foreigner, but he's a Korean, so you should appreciate your great luck that he is paying any attention to you at all. And why would you think that small town cops would be no help at all? They are always willing to come down hard on one of their own.
That's being a foreign female teacher in a small town in Korea. I'm sure some of that applies to men as well.
If I were in your situation, I WOULD quit and I'd go work somewhere bigger where people aren't so bored with their own lives that they have to mess around with other people's. I DID quit the job where all of the above happened and I was certainly much happier when I got away from that place.
yes, I love Korea==but that is partly because I am much better about not getting myself into those kind of situations anymore. Small towns are not for me (not in any country). |
Oh, MAN!!!!!!!! How did you deal with that?? I would have been beside myself. How LONG did you deal with that? God, that's just nauseating behavior. At my first hakwon, I ran into a woman who used to work at the same hakwon, and she told me that the wonjang was livid that she decided to marry a Korean. Also, she ended-up in the hospital (after getting married) because she had had a miscarriage. Well, the wonjang called the hospital, and they actually TOLD him that she had had a miscarriage. He spread rumors that she had had an abortion. Anyway, she has kids now. =)
The thing that really galled me was that there was an image of Christ displayed in the assistant director's office (this was at the Kid's Club in Dongcheondong, Incheon- that school SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!). How some people sleep at night, I just don't know. Well, I guess the Christian concept of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is not taught here. I'm really sorry for the people that have such a rough time here. |
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sparkx
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: thekimchipot.com
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Meanwhile, the supermarket lady and I were starting to become good (platonic) friends, and she would often come visit me in my home. A month after the first incident, I got a call from the person who recruited me and said that the school called him telling him that the supermarket lady was my girlfriend |
Nice.
Did she hook you up with free ramyun and banana milk? |
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mack the knife
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: standing right behind you...
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| Scandalous story, but still doesn't touch the one about SLP hogwon putting a hidden camera in a teacher's apartment, then blackmailing him because he smoked herb. That one still reigns supreme. |
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