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 Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:03 am Post subject: EFL-Law in The National Congress |
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You can see what happened at today's National Congress hearing into Foreign teachers - by the efl-law guy --
VIP REPORT: National Assembly Hearing: Foreign Teachers:
http://efl-law.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=643 |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| Um, yeah, can't view without registering. Please copy and paste. |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| efl law guy wrote: |
June 8th 2005:
I would like to report on today��s hearing at the National Assembly in Seoul that was looking into (a) The EPIK Program and Changes (b) the Foreign Teachers Legal and Economic situation.
I spent the day at the above mentioned hearing following an invitation that arose out of the EFL-Law session a few weeks ago.
First some stats that will be of interest:-
As of yesterday there were 72,543 Hogwans in Korea. Of those, 5,686 are teaching English.
There are 10,822 E2 holders teaching in Korea
As of yesterday, there were 498 foreign teachers teaching whose E2 had expired and thus were considered in violation of various laws.
An estimate of purely illegal teachers was around 1000. (those on vacation and teaching)
Of the 10,862 teachers, 5.6% were working in Elementary, Middle, and High Schools. The rest in Hogwans and Higher education.
EPIK: The first part of the morning looked at proposed changes to EPIK. The JET program was discussed (and NET) with JET being the preferred model (and in size ~ 6,103 in JET) (149 in EPIK in 2004 with 45 ((30.2% resigning before contract end)) More sittings will be held on this topic as there is a lot to discuss – today��s issues - such as what has happened since CARETA (The initial EPIK 1996) till now were looked at. Issues going to what an EPIK should do (qualifications etc) were canvassed.
FOREIGNERS LEGAL & ECONOMIC CONDITIONS.
Here I basically held the floor as it was my submission - with some q&as.
I supplied the statistics for the last three years which showed that on average 35% of all foreigners encountered a "legal problem" during their sojourn.
Secondly, the issue of false TESL Certificates and Scam operations was raised by MOE officials - & False Degrees were raised by other members. It was well understood how easy it is to buy a Certificate/Degree on line.
Lack of help services. The thrust of my submission went to this issue and was well received. The Congressman and others clearly saw the problems as I explained them to them. The Congress is well aware that this needs urgent attention.
Other issues discussed went to the qualifications of teachers coming to Korea. We will, at some stage, see a major change in who will be coming to Korea in the future to teach - I won't hazard a guess when- but change will happen legislatively.
The issue of a Union was raised and discussed.
END Result. I have been asked to prepare a proposal for the establishment of a Teachers Help centre -- this will deal with legal problems suffered....
Next Step: I am preparing that recommendation over the next week.
I can't say "when" but I do believe we are now in the "tunnel" and although we can't see the light at the end, we are driving much faster to the light and it is going to happen.
**Addendum**
Teaching "Privates"
This point was discussed at the National Assembly but briefly due to time limits.
It is something we will have to address -- we are poles apart - they (Congress) see teaching privately as a violation of the Sponsorship law --
However, Congress is deeply concerned at the large amount of Students leaving Korea to receive education in the West... There are 28,126 school students studying abroad-
Elementary 15,661
Middle School 7,922
High School 4,543
thus I shall make a submission that by allowing 'private' work these students may/will not need to go OS...
Have to think that one through a bit.... |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| Who, exactly, is this EFL-Law guy??? |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| crazylemongirl wrote: |
| efl law guy wrote: |
June 8th 2005:
I would like to report on today��s hearing at the National Assembly in Seoul that was looking into (a) The EPIK Program and Changes (b) the Foreign Teachers Legal and Economic situation.
I spent the day at the above mentioned hearing following an invitation that arose out of the EFL-Law session a few weeks ago.
First some stats that will be of interest:-
As of yesterday there were 72,543 Hogwans in Korea. Of those, 5,686 are teaching English.
There are 10,822 E2 holders teaching in Korea
As of yesterday, there were 498 foreign teachers teaching whose E2 had expired and thus were considered in violation of various laws.
An estimate of purely illegal teachers was around 1000. (those on vacation and teaching)
Of the 10,862 teachers, 5.6% were working in Elementary, Middle, and High Schools. The rest in Hogwans and Higher education.
EPIK: The first part of the morning looked at proposed changes to EPIK. The JET program was discussed (and NET) with JET being the preferred model (and in size ~ 6,103 in JET) (149 in EPIK in 2004 with 45 ((30.2% resigning before contract end)) More sittings will be held on this topic as there is a lot to discuss – today��s issues - such as what has happened since CARETA (The initial EPIK 1996) till now were looked at. Issues going to what an EPIK should do (qualifications etc) were canvassed.
FOREIGNERS LEGAL & ECONOMIC CONDITIONS.
Here I basically held the floor as it was my submission - with some q&as.
I supplied the statistics for the last three years which showed that on average 35% of all foreigners encountered a "legal problem" during their sojourn.
Secondly, the issue of false TESL Certificates and Scam operations was raised by MOE officials - & False Degrees were raised by other members. It was well understood how easy it is to buy a Certificate/Degree on line.
Lack of help services. The thrust of my submission went to this issue and was well received. The Congressman and others clearly saw the problems as I explained them to them. The Congress is well aware that this needs urgent attention.
Other issues discussed went to the qualifications of teachers coming to Korea. We will, at some stage, see a major change in who will be coming to Korea in the future to teach - I won't hazard a guess when- but change will happen legislatively.
The issue of a Union was raised and discussed.
END Result. I have been asked to prepare a proposal for the establishment of a Teachers Help centre -- this will deal with legal problems suffered....
Next Step: I am preparing that recommendation over the next week.
I can't say "when" but I do believe we are now in the "tunnel" and although we can't see the light at the end, we are driving much faster to the light and it is going to happen.
**Addendum**
Teaching "Privates"
This point was discussed at the National Assembly but briefly due to time limits.
It is something we will have to address -- we are poles apart - they (Congress) see teaching privately as a violation of the Sponsorship law --
However, Congress is deeply concerned at the large amount of Students leaving Korea to receive education in the West... There are 28,126 school students studying abroad-
Elementary 15,661
Middle School 7,922
High School 4,543
thus I shall make a submission that by allowing 'private' work these students may/will not need to go OS...
Have to think that one through a bit.... |
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Glad you posted it, CMG. I had it up, but took it down. I was afraid that he might not approve, since he's now trying to get people to register for his site. Maybe not. |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm trying to register now, but there is some problem. Still waiting. |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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So the wheels are in motion, and where the train will end up no-one knows for sure.
It's going to be an interesting next year or two. |
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