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Chopstix



Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Location: Nowon Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:18 am    Post subject: a tale from immigration Reply with quote

my friend just spent 5 days in the cell at immigration. there is a huge crackdown now on part time teachers and companies- take off all resumes with pics on English Spectrum and Workn Play- they have a monitor working those sites- the cell was terrible and he will be deported after paying 2 million in fines- at least a year before he can come back-

phones with working contacts are a bad idea as they check all numbers and friends unknowingly tell undercover workers what their buddies do.

be very careful as it can really ruin your future and life in korea!
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TY for the serious sounding tip
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this has been in the news for quiet sometime that there was going to be a big crackdown in June.

Sorry to hear that your bud got caught but the reason privates are high is because part of the cash is 'danger money'
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posting one's pic and contact information online in the hopes of getting part-time jobs and privates? That's one for the stupid foreigner file (here's a novel idea: get a real job). Goes right next to the "I'm afraid I can't leave the country because I've willfully surrendered my passport to my boss and he won't return it" file (call your embassy, dimwit).
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Homer
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well,

If a person does something illegal (in this case pvts) then there is always the chance they might get busted. Thats a choice you make and if the piper comes knocking, you just have to pay up.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: a tale from immigration Reply with quote

Chopstix wrote:
my friend just spent 5 days in the cell at immigration. there is a huge crackdown now on part time teachers and companies- take off all resumes with pics on English Spectrum and Workn Play- they have a monitor working those sites- the cell was terrible and he will be deported after paying 2 million in fines- at least a year before he can come back-

phones with working contacts are a bad idea as they check all numbers and friends unknowingly tell undercover workers what their buddies do.

be very careful as it can really ruin your future and life in korea!


Last Thursday, you posted that your friend has been asked to show up at Immigration on Monday (as in yesterday, the holiday). Now you say he's been in the cell for 5 days. Care to get your facts straight?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Care to get your facts straight?


Thats asking a lot from an online poster chronic... Laughing
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Chopstix



Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Location: Nowon Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah it was actually friday he went in- thanks tips (chronic) just be careful out there- even if you have an E2 at one place they are cracking down hard!- my buddy was here for 2 years and is leaving alot of good friends and a good life behind! it is really not worth it to use a recruiting company for part time work!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it is really not worth it to use a recruiting company for part time work!


I would say that if you are a long timer here with long term plans and any sort of investment in Korea (be it personal or financial) then not only is the above quote relevant but doing pvts at all is not worth the risk.
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The funny thing about all of this is that it will only drive prices up, and drive the classes "underground."

Although I don't teach any business classes, I've followed the boards and read about how recruiters have "snatched up" a lot of the jobs that used to pay above 50,000 - 70,000 an hour to a private individual. The recruiters took the same job, keep a cut, and now pay the teachers something like 35,000 an hour.

Immigration is doing teachers a huge favor. Pretty soon, these recruiters will be gone, and the courses will once again be taught by a foreinger for more money. Just as there are fewer and fewer E-2 visas being issued because it's a pain and people from Canada, for example, can work on 6-month Tourist Visas -- soon, the business jobs will not be in the hands of recruiters. They will be in the hands of individual teachers who cannot be easily traced or busted through an agency.

The jobs won't go away. The money will just be channeled in a different way -- directly into the hands of foreign teachers with no Koreans taking a cut. And just like the Tourist Visa problem, immigration will be virtually powerless to stop it.

Those who teach these PT jobs on their own should say, "Thank-you immigration!" Laughing
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And just like the Tourist Visa problem, immigration will be virtually powerless to stop it.


You obviously have not been paying attention to what is happening lately with regards to pvts tutors lately.

Immigration is not powerless to root out pvt teachers. They may be harder to pinch but it does happen and will continue to do so.
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
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And just like the Tourist Visa problem, immigration will be virtually powerless to stop it.


You obviously have not been paying attention to what is happening lately with regards to pvts tutors lately.

Immigration is not powerless to root out pvt teachers. They may be harder to pinch but it does happen and will continue to do so.



Ok, VIRTUALLY POWERLESS. How many token busts have there been, compared to the number of private lessons that are going on? No one knows, but I seem to remember the article about these "busts" seem to quote more illegal actors than teachers.... weren't about 20 out of the 110 people busted actually busted for teaching English?
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wishes he was born Canadian.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why me??
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone get the feeling Homer really is a privates king and he is trying to scare everybody else into not doing them so he can corner more money Wink
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