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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Does anyone know what YODA ment in episode 5 just before Luke takes off from Yodas place to help han and lea..
OBIONE says.. he is our last hope!
then yoda said "NO there is another"...
who is the other?? |
Yeah it's supposed to be Leia, leading you to believe the female twin was only known to Yoda and not Obiwan. But EpIII seems to make it hard to believe Ben can't figure out Leia might have an ability. Vader figures it out in 5 seconds.
You then have to spin a pretty big back story to explain why Ben doesn't think of Leia as a back up Jedi. "Well, maybe, errr, maybe Leia's metychlorian tests were faked so no one would go after her and Ben was told that and only Yoda knew and..." |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
Does anyone know what YODA ment in episode 5 just before Luke takes off from Yodas place to help han and lea..
OBIONE says.. he is our last hope!
then yoda said "NO there is another"...
who is the other?? |
Could be referring to Vader's turn at the end for redemption...? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| itaewonguy wrote: |
Does anyone know what YODA ment in episode 5 just before Luke takes off from Yodas place to help han and lea..
OBIONE says.. he is our last hope!
then yoda said "NO there is another"...
who is the other?? |
Could be referring to Vader's turn at the end for redemption...? |
The other can only refer to Leia.
LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.
BEN: The other he spoke of is your twin sister.
Previous:
YODA: Luke, the Force runs strong in your family.
Pass on what you have learned, Luke... (with
great effort) There is...another...Sky...Sky...walker.
I would assume this "another" calls back to Empire's
YODA: (sighs) Told you, I did. Reckless is he. Now matters are worse.
BEN: That boy is our last hope.
YODA: (looks up) No. There is another.
My feeling is Yoda can't speak English correctly. Of course Ben knows about Leia. But Luke was the only trained Jedi they had standing between the Emperor and the New And Improved Death Star. How many years did it take to get Luke to be a generally piss poor Jedi? What would they do until then? Yoda wasn't going to live forever. They can't necessarily train a new Jedi from the ghost world. So if Luke gets smoked, in Ben's mind, there is no more HOPE. Yoda is saying, maybe, there is ANOTHER hope, albeit a slim one in an untrained Leia, a hope which Yoda details after the wipe to the cloud city scene. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Actually, Yoda is a 900 year-old Korean. Why?
- Soju is a preservative, and Yoda is 900 years old
- Green from drinking soju for 900 years
- His eyes
- Steals something from the white guy, then demands to let him have it, or he won't help him.
- Yoda sees a white dude and he starts asking him a million questions, going through his stuff, and generally being nosey
- Yoda thinks he knows everything
- Terrible, his English, it is
- He eats gross-tasting food and forces his white friend to eat it |
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turtlepi1
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Ummm, that line where Palpatine tells Anakin about Darth Plageuis made me think that Palpatine was the apprentice to Plageuis and was the one who killed him after learning all his secrets. Though Palpatine could not grant immortality, as he says towards the end when he uses this line to convince Anakin that together they could solve that puzzle and become immortal, he never says anything about whether or not he could create life by manipulating the midi-chlorians. Still, I think it's jumping the gun a bit to say that Palpatine is implying he is Anakin's father... and the reason I say this is because if this were true then Lucas would have made sure to use this in Palpatine's speeches to Anakin to try to lure him to the dark side. This would have been a useful and believable bargaining chip for Palpatine and it's omission has to count towards the idea that it isn't true. |
So when I watched it I didn't pick up on the comment by Palpatine because it had been so long since I watched episode one. And when Canuksaram mentioned it I thought it was some buried back story. Then when I watched episode 1 last night I realized that is EXACTLY why the dialogue was put in. It makes perfect sense that Darth Plageuis was Anikins "father".
As for in Star Wars world:
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This is taken from Page 42 of the Making of Revenge of the Sith book, which contains storyline and dialogue from George Lucas' rough draft of the script....
"On Coruscant, PALPATINE completes his seduction of ANAKIN, who at first refuses to go over to the dark side-- until the Chancellor makes a startling confession:"
DARTH SIDIOUS-- "I have waited all these years for you to fulfill your destiny... I arranged for your conception. I used the power of the Force to will the midichlorians to start the cell divisions that created you."
ANAKIN-- "I don't believe you."
DARTH SIDIOUS-- "Ahhh, but you know it's true. When you clear your mind, you will sense the truth. you could almost think of me as your father."
ANAKIN-- "That's impossible!"
DARTH SIDIOUS-- "Nevertheless, you must decide."
Later this dialogue was cut, as you can see if you read on the second column, about halfway down on Page 60. It simply states this there....
"The dialogue indicating that PALPATINE is responsible for ANAKIN'S creation has been cut."
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skinhead
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| So Palpatine lied. Anakin believed him. There was no going back. Nothing more was needed. The physical transformation into Vader was merely the product. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:27 am Post subject: |
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>. Just saw it this afternoon. On the whole i in fact thought it was pretty darn good. The final Episode managed to bring things together nicely. Now i think i finally understand the series a little better 
Couple small problems i had included Anaken turning as he did to the Dark side. How he turned ( apparently ) in order to save his wife. Hmmmm ... didn't quite follow the whole sequence of events, logic etc. She died in the end anyways. He falsely trusted in the Chancellor's ( soon to become Emperor ) false promises.
Secondly, the break of up the huge battleship that Anaken & Obi Won landed at the start of the movie called for a great deal of having to suspend my disbelief. Sure i know it's science fiction ... but c'mon ... really ...
Something certainly drew him to the dark side. Was he born that way ??? Guess it was his destiny.
Anyways, on the whole the movie was well worth seeing.
| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
Actually, Yoda is a 900 year-old Korean. Why?
- Soju is a preservative, and Yoda is 900 years old
- Green from drinking soju for 900 years
- His eyes
- Steals something from the white guy, then demands to let him have it, or he won't help him.
- Yoda sees a white dude and he starts asking him a million questions, going through his stuff, and generally being nosey
- Yoda thinks he knows everything
- Terrible, his English, it is
- He eats gross-tasting food and forces his white friend to eat it |
Was talking about YODA with my gf today. Don't a lot of Chinese think Star Wars is essntially subversive in the way it apparently portrays Asian like characters in a negative / evil light ???
Hmmmm ... although his English bad ... truly it is, YODA stands as an example of an Asian / Buddha like character representing wisdom, goodness & enlightenment.
Kinda nixes the Dark Side = all Asians theory. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:49 am Post subject: |
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I thought about it and there's no way Anakin could be Palpatine's 'son'. Here's why:
First of all, Palpatine had another apprentice at the time, and even though he didn't get much air time in the first movie he was still quite formidable. A Sith can only have one apprentice at a time.
Also, were he to decide to 'create' a son out of metachlorines it would make perfect sense to just raise him himself from a child. No sense chancing that jedis will find him, train him, and then leave him open to possible tempation from the dark side, if he happens to have the right personality - that's too complicated. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| George Lucas, announced at ShoWest that he plans to release all six Star Wars movies in a 3-D format starting in 2007. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
I thought about it and there's no way Anakin could be Palpatine's 'son'. Here's why:
First of all, Palpatine had another apprentice at the time, and even though he didn't get much air time in the first movie he was still quite formidable. A Sith can only have one apprentice at a time.
Also, were he to decide to 'create' a son out of metachlorines it would make perfect sense to just raise him himself from a child. No sense chancing that jedis will find him, train him, and then leave him open to possible tempation from the dark side, if he happens to have the right personality - that's too complicated. |
Palpatine and the master he killed -- and whether or not Palpatine helped in the "creation" of Anakin -- would be an interesting storyline for the live-action series they have planned.
But I will always hate the idea of midochlorians. 'The Force' needs no scientific explanation!
Sparkles*_* |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| I didn't like the juxtaposing of the Anakin/Obi-Wan duel and the Yoda/Palpatine one. Yoda/Palpatine should have come earlier in the film, and Anakin/Obi-Wan needed its own scene -- no cut-aways. |
Here you are!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JeoHYcmoNxs |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| I didn't like the juxtaposing of the Anakin/Obi-Wan duel and the Yoda/Palpatine one. Yoda/Palpatine should have come earlier in the film, and Anakin/Obi-Wan needed its own scene -- no cut-aways. |
Here you are!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JeoHYcmoNxs |
Pretty effin' cool, that.
However, it does highlight the worst effin' part of the whole trilogy:
"From my point of view, the Jedi are eeeeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeel...  "
What a loseur. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Star Wars III was not very good. And I found while watching the earliers ones (IV, V, VI) afterwards that I didn't feel as much pity for Darth Vader anymore. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| flotsam wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| I didn't like the juxtaposing of the Anakin/Obi-Wan duel and the Yoda/Palpatine one. Yoda/Palpatine should have come earlier in the film, and Anakin/Obi-Wan needed its own scene -- no cut-aways. |
Here you are!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JeoHYcmoNxs |
Pretty effin' cool, that.
However, it does highlight the worst effin' part of the whole trilogy:
"From my point of view, the Jedi are eeeeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeel... "
What a loseur. |
Hmm, sounds like you might like this then:
http://www.chefelf.com/starwars/ep3_71-80.php
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Reason #74
"From my point of view the Jedi are Evil"
While Anakin and Obi-Wan are surfing along the lava pools, Obi-Wan tells Anakin that he has failed him. Anakin responds by saying that he should have known that the Jedi were going to take over. Obi-Wan shouts to Anakin, "Palpatine is evil!" to which Anakin replies, "From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!"
Do evil people say things like that? Do good people say things like that? In an irrational combat where each is trying to kill the other, do people really talk about their points of view? Suddenly, this has become a well-mediated debate rather than a fight to the death. "Please try to see things my way, Obi-Wan! Walk a mile in my shoes! Please! Or I will have to kill you!" |
Even though I love the prequels and Episode III in particular, this site is pretty hilarious. But worst part of the whole trilogy? I'd say this one is much worse (Ep. I):
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Reason #60
"Yousa thinken yousa people gonna die?"
A scene that may have possibly been important or meaningful is ruined by this annoying line by Jar Jar. If my mom was sick and someone said: "Yousa thinken yousa mom is gonna die?" I'd punch them square on the nose. |
This one's good too (Ep. 2):
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Reason #25
Bustin' on Artoo
There's this one scene where Padme and Anakin are walking on Naboo and she says she's a little nervous and he confesses to also being nervous since this is his first assignment by himself. "Don't worry," Padme says. "We have Artoo with us." Then they both laugh about how ridiculous a concept it is that Artoo could be at all useful. Artoo beeps and if Threepio were there to translate it would probably be something along the lines of "*beep* you both." |
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