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kelly
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| A child that young should not be left unattended if you read any of the warning labels on car seats, bounce chairs etc it always says Never leave a child unattended. Of course when a baby is asleep you can't sit by his or her side, but the least you can do is go in and out and check and have a monitor. Of course unfortunate things do happen, one of my family members died of SIDs but there was never any reason found for his death, sometimes these things just happen and there are no logical reasons, but someone who knowingly leaves their young child for a long period of time especially leaves the house, should a. be charged for neglect and b. be charged for whatever happened with the child, in this current case death. They never gave that baby a chance, they might as well have just killed it knowingly for what they did, and they deserve to be punished harshly for it, but knowing Korea they'll get a slap on the hand and sent of home. |
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PolyChronic Time Girl
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: Korea Exited
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:54 am Post subject: |
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That is atrocious!!!!! Were they not warned to NEVER leave their baby unattended????????? I would never in a million years leave Letty in bed and go out., anything can happen.
You bring a life to this world, it's your responsibility to look after this life. I hope they get charged with murder because that's what this is!  |
I don't understand this reaction. Firstly, you make it seem like you think you are a better parent because you would never do it and you are solely responsible which disturbs me... but I'll put that aside for a moment to ask you to consider something:
What if the child had suffocated in any case, with the parents in the next room? Would you still clamour for their conviction for murder then? What if they had left it, as the OP said was possible, with their relative and it had died. What then? Irresponsible? We don't know all the facts in this case anyway... which is another thing to consider before flinging judgments around.
And another thing. They could never be convicted of murder in any case as there was arguably no premeditation. It would be manslaughter at worst. Glad you aren't their judge and jury...
... there but for the grace of God go you... |
I agree with you that accidental tragedies happen to parents, but what Tzechuk is saying is that these parents were clearly neglectful....it goes way beyond accidental. I mean, c'mon, 5 hours unattended they left that baby!! You don't even need to be a parent or even have half a brain to know that this is incredibly dangerous for an infant. These "parents" should indeed be prosecuted as criminals. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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The parenting skills of many North Americans leaves a lot to be desired. I remember one guy got his baby stolen when he pulled his car into a beer store, got out, left the engine running, the doors unlocked, and the baby in the back. Had to have his beer. A thief jumped in the car and drove off.
Or, geez, remember how Eric Clapton's kid died... |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| These "parents" should indeed be prosecuted as criminals. |
Was it a girl baby or a boy baby? I'm sure they'll do time if they lost a precious male baby. A girl, well, they'll be given a firm hug and some strong words about trying for a boy next time. |
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calypso
Joined: 31 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:43 am Post subject: |
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do you recon rr gets off on all these people replying?  |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| In my day, my parents neglected me because they were out stealing hubcaps to sell for crack. I feel so isolated in this modern, hi-tech world that it just brings me to my knees and disgusts me. |
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calypso
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| buddy bradley wrote: |
| In my day, my parents neglected me because they were out stealing hubcaps to sell for crack. I feel so isolated in this modern, hi-tech world that it just brings me to my knees and disgusts me. |
i think you feel isolated becuase you have no friends??? or you smell really bad or that just going up to random women in itaewon and saying what sex just isnt good. |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| calypso wrote: |
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| In my day, my parents neglected me because they were out stealing hubcaps to sell for crack. I feel so isolated in this modern, hi-tech world that it just brings me to my knees and disgusts me. |
i think you feel isolated becuase you have no friends??? or you smell really bad or that just going up to random women in itaewon and saying what sex just isnt good. |
What you just said is all true. I will, however, defend myself by saying that my BO is long gone ever since I got my hands on some Canadian aloe vera deodorant. People love me now. |
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calypso
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| what to have sex then? |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| what to have sex then? |
Perhaps if you were to type coherent English I might know what you're trying to say. As it is, I'm pretty clueless as to what you're going on about. I will say this much though:
I like you. Please PM me for my telephone number and address (not gay). |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| anything can happen. |
that's overstating it. it's highly unlikley your baby would be devoured by velociraptors and you know it. stop misleading the public.
when i was a wee crush, my mother left me unattended to duck down the shops for some nappies. the house was burgled whilst she was out, but they didn't take me. and you know why they didn't take me?
if you do, pm me.
by all means protect your kids, but for god's sake don't be too protective -otherwise your kids will never develop the survival instincts necessary to ward of velociraptors.
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Develop survival instincts at 7 months?? Are you out of your mind???? A baby has no way of fending for him/herself. A baby knows nothing else but to be loved and cared for by his/her mother and father and people close to him/her. A baby, even a child, should be looked after, not to have to struggle with developing *survival instincts* - there's plenty of time to do that later!
I don't think you should have a child, coldrush - you will not devote yourself wholeheartedly to the baby. I already know it now. |
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buddy bradley
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think you should have a child, coldrush - you will not devote yourself wholeheartedly to the baby. I already know it now. |
And what exactly is Letty doing during the 7+ hours that you spend posting on this board? |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:11 am Post subject: |
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That is atrocious!!!!! Were they not warned to NEVER leave their baby unattended????????? I would never in a million years leave Letty in bed and go out., anything can happen.
You bring a life to this world, it's your responsibility to look after this life. I hope they get charged with murder because that's what this is! |
I don't understand this reaction. Firstly, you make it seem like you think you are a better parent because you would never do it and you are solely responsible which disturbs me... but I'll put that aside for a moment to ask you to consider something:
What if the child had suffocated in any case, with the parents in the next room? Would you still clamour for their conviction for murder then? What if they had left it, as the OP said was possible, with their relative and it had died. What then? Irresponsible? We don't know all the facts in this case anyway... which is another thing to consider before flinging judgments around.
And another thing. They could never be convicted of murder in any case as there was arguably no premeditation. It would be manslaughter at worst. Glad you aren't their judge and jury...
... there but for the grace of God go you... |
The saint.. obviously you do not know much about first-aid. A person can be revived within a certain amount of time after suffocation. I go and check Letty every 10-15 minutes to make sure she's breathing/not covered up/ not harmed in anyway. If I ever find her to be not breathing, I will definitely try to revive her pronto. I would do everything in my power to try get her life back.
They may not have *murdered* the baby in the sense of *murder* as we commonly know it.. but they did knowingly leave the child unattended. Even adults sometimes have trouble fending for themselves.. how can you expect a baby, only 4 months old, to fend for herself????
Answer me this: if you were so addicted to internet game, why bring a life to this world, so you could just leave her alone to sleep in her cot for FOUR HOURS whilst you went out to play? Is that not irresponsibility? Is that not immaturity?
At four months old, a baby rarely sleeps for longer than 2 hours at a stretch. They should have known this. So what you are saying is that even when the baby is awake, they should just leave her in her cot and not go look at her, feed her or cuddle her. At 4 months, she should still be fed every 2-3 hours.
I am just angry that they would bring a new life in to this world only to neglect her. I am so angry I could cry. |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:15 am Post subject: |
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I am so angry I could cry.
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You should put your tears in a bottle and feed it to Letty. It's a well known fact that Sudanese mothers do this to ensure that their kids get enough protein in order to have a well-balanced diet and develop incredible muscles. |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think you should have a child, coldrush - you will not devote yourself wholeheartedly to the baby. I already know it now. |
And what exactly is Letty doing during the 7+ hours that you spend posting on this board? |
For your information, Letty is rarely out of my sight. I am either holding her or she is in her exersaucer which is right next to me or on her floor mats playing, again right next to me.
She is 7 months now, so she needs her play time. And I don't spend 7+ hours here - but obviously you do because you seem to be keeping track. |
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