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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Location: Middle Land
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:34 am Post subject: Korea or Corea? |
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Which do you prefer?
Corea or Korea?
And, why? |
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kimcheeking Guest
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Korea because it is English. Corea, I believe, is French. |
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denz

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: soapland. alternatively - the school of rock!
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Ostralia.
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Oirland |
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gajackson1

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Casa Chil, Sungai Besar, Sultanate of Brunei
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Turtle Island (in translation)
But, if you insist on English, then I say Columbia! MML!
G. |
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denz

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: soapland. alternatively - the school of rock!
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:46 am Post subject: |
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loyalist!
denz |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:58 am Post subject: |
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It was Corea before japanese occupation.
It became Korea during japanese rule....
In french its not Korea or Corea its Cor�e.
I think koreans should choose whatever way they prefer... |
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posco's trumpet
Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: Beneath the Underdog
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Gord

Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Homer wrote: |
It was Corea before japanese occupation.
It became Korea during japanese rule.... |
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I think koreans should choose whatever way they prefer... |
So let's start calling the place Hangook. And Japan, that's Nippon from now on in every language. |
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Korea Newfie

Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 8:22 am Post subject: |
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kimcheeking wrote: |
Korea because it is English. Corea, I believe, is French. |
Espa�ol
When you ask why the Sea of Japan should be called the East Sea, Koreans say it's because there's evidence showing that it was called the East Sea long before Japanese colonial rule. When you point out that there are maps showing it was referred to as the Sea of Japan as well, you're met with blank stares. They choose the side which gives them one up on Japan.
This also seems to be the case with the name of the country. I've read that it was called both Korea and Corea in early records, as was often the case in the development of the English language. However, the C vs. K conspiracy fits nicely into the Japanese hate campaign, so why not buy into it?
It's really hilarious to see how riled up some people get about this issue. I mean, they're Korean, so what in the hell do they care what we call it in our language? When we tell them they have to change it in Korean that they should whine and moan.
It's the Sea of Japan. Why? Remove Japan...is there a sea?
It's Korea, with a K. Why? Because we speak English and we say so. |
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mole

Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Act III
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Corea
er.. just because it looked exotic and new and cool during World Cup.
am I shallow?
Agreed. Koreans should choose the spelling they prefer. Most of my students prefer Korea. |
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Korea Newfie

Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 9:07 am Post subject: |
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mole wrote: |
Koreans should choose the spelling they prefer. |
With all due respect, I couldn't disagree more. Koreans have no right dictating how we spell words in English.
Ingland?
Kanada?
Osstralia?
Yoonited States?
Korea is an English word. Yes, it happens to be the name of their country, but it's a part of our language. How do you think they'd react if we started telling them to replace the "giuk" in Kia with a "kiuk" because we prefer it? |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Gord...
1) Ahhh..yes...
Japan changed many things during the colonization period and the spelling of Korea seems to have been one of them. It was a singular policy but it seems it was applied none the less.
Perhaps you need a source Gordie?
well here it is pal:
…honor the more natural rendering commonly used in the English-speaking world prior to the Japanese annexation and colonialization of Corea beginning in 1905.
American and English books published during the latter half of the 19th century generally referred to the nation as "Corea" as recently as the years immediately preceding Japan's formal annexation of Corea in 1910. An 1851 map of East Asia by Englishman John Tallis labels the nation Corea. The same spelling is used in The Mongols, a 1908 history of the Mongol race by Jeremiah Curtin, the world's foremost Asia scholar of the day, as well as in several books by American missionaries published between 1887 and 1905.
Japan's annexation of Corea didn't become formal until 1910, but for all practical purposes Japan had become the power that regulated Corea's relations with the outside world in 1897 when it defeated China in a war over Japan's ambition to exercise control over Corea. The only other power willing to contest Japan's supremacy in the Corean peninsula was Russia. When it was easily defeated by Japan at Port Arthur in 1905, the annexation of Corea became a fait accompli. Anxious to avoid a costly Pacific conflict, President Wilson ignored the pleas of a delegation of Corean patriots and their American missionary supporters and turned a blind eye to Japan's acts of formal annexation and colonization of Corea. During that period Japan mounted a campaign to push for the "Korea" useage by the American press. Why? For one of Japan's prospective colonies to precede its master in the alphabetical lineup of nations would be unseemly, Japanese imperialists decided.
S:http://goldsea.com/Air/Issues/Corea/corea.html
More Gordie? Allrightie then buddy..
"Since Korea was known as Corea or Coree for many hundreds of years before being introduced to English speaking world,it seems curious why the spelling had changed into K. "
S: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~soon/essays/corea.html
Of course Gordie, Korean's feelings towards Japan are tainted and very biased. Even if it is just nationalistic pridethe base of the argument is explained cleary here:
"Well then, I think that if they really want to change Korea to Corea, they should do so without cooking up a story. It is not so rare a practice to change country names. For example, Zaire was renamed to Congo, and Bilma to Myanmer. "
S:http://www.geocities.com/neue_strassenbahn/corea.html
They do call it Hanguk in hangul. They have the right to decide how to spell their nation's name in English. If other countries decide they don't like it then thats a different story. It would not be that big of a deal to change the name.
Look at the case of Pusan which is spelt With a "P" or with a "B" as in Busan. If they want to call it Corea for national and historical reasons its their right after all they are korean..err..I mean corean...or perhaps cor�en...
They don't spell it Kanada in english either thats just the phonetic translation with hangul. |
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seoulman

Joined: 21 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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I also don't agree that Korea (with a "k") should have any say on how the name of their country is spelled or pronounced in English or any other language. Many languages call it something that looks or sounds nothing like Korea. That is their prerogative. |
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The King of Kwangju

Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Location: New York City
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Homer wrote: |
Perhaps you need a source Gordie?
well here it is pal... |
Those are some weak sources, Homer. Little more than opinions, no more (or less) valid than any other posted on this board.
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~soon/essays/corea.html wrote: |
Some nationalists claim that Japanese intentionally promoted Korea instead of Corea, reason being that K comes after J. Sounds ridiculous, but you know about Korean feeling about anything related to Japanese colonial rule. They tried to eradicate Korean names and banned Korean language and culture. Such was the extent of Japanese stupidity, which in turn gives birth to ridiculous arguments. |
For the record, I think it's possible Japan did change the name, but if there's proof, I've not seen it. |
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