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High school student denied diploma for thin tie
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winnie



Joined: 08 May 2005
Location: the forest

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This article makes my blood boil.

I cannot believe that in this day in age, aboriginals are still being denied the right to express their culture.

Also, the fact that they allowed someone to wear a head scarf...but they won't allow someone who is aboriginal(from the original peoples of America) to express themselves. It angers me so much. People can argue and earn the right to wear a turban to work, but I bet an aboriginal couldn't show up in headdress. Mad

Given the plight of many aboriginals, and the percentage of whom actually graduate high school is another thing. The fact that he is graduating is another huge thing in itself.

AND...they allowed him to participate, but did not get give him his diploma....what is that about? If he didn't show up, could he have gotten it? Seems like a messed up rule to me.

This is 2005 people....grrr.

I am all for people looking nice at grad, and he did look nice....WTF?
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plot thickens.


Necktie Makers Fear Japan's New Dress Code By MARI YAMAGUCHI, Associated Press Writer
Thu Jun 16,12:07 AM ET



The idea might have been to help slow global warming, but Japan's necktie makers fear a government campaign to get people to wear light clothing and turn down the air conditioners during the summer could be seriously bad for business.

With Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi leading the way, the government started a national "No jacket, no tie" campaign this month that urges public workers to leave their ties and jackets at home so that air conditioning can be turned down to save energy. Top government leaders are now showing up in Parliament and at Cabinet meetings without ties.

The idea has gotten a warm reception, and, tongue-in-cheek, TV programs and magazines have been evaluating the fashion sense of each minister.

But necktie makers said Thursday they fear the new dress code could cost them up to 30 percent of their 200 billion yen ($1.83 billion) annual sales.

"We are not opposing the Cool Biz itself. Dressing cool is fine," said Tetsuo Yamada, a spokesman for the Federation of Japanese Necktie Unions. "The problem is the slogan that discriminates against neckties."

The group last week submitted an official protest, asking Environment Minister Yuriko Koike to change promotional copy so it would not "discriminate against a particular product."

Yamada said the campaign was particularly damaging because it started just as the industry was expecting sales to increase ahead of June 19 Fathers' Day. He said most of the domestic tie makers are small and are likely to be hit hard.

Yamada said a lawsuit is a possibility for the association's 60 member companies. "I hope we won't have to go that far," he said.

Elsewhere in Japanese business, however, the new policy is expected to boost the economy, especially for shirt makers, as the country's 250,000 national bureaucrats retool their monochromatic wardrobes.

Economy Minister Heizo Takenaka said the effort could raise consumer spending by at least 10 billion yen ($91.7 million). The figure rises to 600 billion yen ($5.5 billion) if local government and private industry workers are included.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050616/ap_on_bi_ge/japan_cool_biz
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the Esteemed Cheswick :

Though we seem to be in agreement over the Tyson / Ali debate, I cannot refrain from handing you the top award the category of The Most Off-Topic Response Yet Seen in This Forum.

Thank you for making my day, and un-thank you for trying to kill a thread that a few others felt worth talking about.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.twilightbridge.com/hobbies/festivals/father/necktie.htm

Necktie Down the Ages

Many events in the history of mankind eventually fade into oblivion, but others, leave their indelible marks for the entire world to see. More than 350 years ago, the Croats initiated one such influential occurrence. Although started in the 17th century in a small region on the Adriatic coast, the consequences of this event are still very much evident the world over. 600 million people now wear the ubiquitous symbol of Croatia around their necks, close to their hearts.

Believe it or not Croatia is the mother country of the modern necktie but archaeological evidence of the use of neckties goes back to the Chinese and the Romans almost two millenniums back.
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wannago



Joined: 16 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

winnie wrote:
This article makes my blood boil.

I cannot believe that in this day in age, aboriginals are still being denied the right to express their culture.

Also, the fact that they allowed someone to wear a head scarf...but they won't allow someone who is aboriginal(from the original peoples of America) to express themselves. It angers me so much. People can argue and earn the right to wear a turban to work, but I bet an aboriginal couldn't show up in headdress. Mad

Given the plight of many aboriginals, and the percentage of whom actually graduate high school is another thing. The fact that he is graduating is another huge thing in itself.

AND...they allowed him to participate, but did not get give him his diploma....what is that about? If he didn't show up, could he have gotten it? Seems like a messed up rule to me.

This is 2005 people....grrr.

I am all for people looking nice at grad, and he did look nice....WTF?


Could someone please explain to me how a bolo tie is an expression of aboriginal culture? This is just more liberal blather. The bolo is a relatively new design in neckwear. Just because someone says it is an expression of their culture doesn't make it so. Gee, I should've insisted on wearing lederhosen to my graduation. Rolling Eyes

Here's a website that traces the history of the necktie. Everything you've always wanted to know but were afraid to ask...

http://www.twilightbridge.com/hobbies/festivals/father/necktie.htm

Edit: OOOPS! I missed Leslie's same link above. It talks about bolos as well.
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