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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:38 am Post subject: Survivor of Family Suicide Takes Own Life |
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Survivor of Family Suicide Takes Own Life
A high school senior who was the sole survivor of a family suicide that took place in Gongju, South Chungcheong Province in April committed suicide last Wednesday. Paramedics were called and the teenager, who had drunk herbicide, was immediately transported to Soonchunhyang Hospital in Cheonan. He died on Saturday morning, however.
On April 12, Lee's parents and younger sister set fire to the car they were in parked near the high school that Lee attended, committing family suicide. It was reported that Lee's father chose to die with his family, as he grew more and more pessimistic over his son's failure to adjust to school life.
by You Tae-jong, Chosun Ilbo (June 19, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200506/200506190014.html |
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mateomiguel
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:40 am Post subject: |
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usually its one family member committing suicide in order to put guilt on the rest of them, but this time its the whole family going for it to put guilt on the surviving son.
geez. |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:28 am Post subject: |
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I find it hard to believe the younger sister was really into the whole setting on fire of the car thing. |
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tzechuk

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:49 am Post subject: |
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May be the younger sister had no choice.
It is very sad  |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: |
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tzechuk wrote: |
May be the younger sister had no choice.
It is very sad  |
I know it. I get very angry when I hear about murder-suicides. I can't imagine any more selfish thing than killing your loved ones because you want to die, and there's no greater betrayal than being murdered by someone you loved and trusted, like a parent. |
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chance2005
Joined: 03 Apr 2005
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Survivor of Family Suicide Takes Own Life |
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Real Reality wrote: |
Survivor of Family Suicide Takes Own Life
A high school senior who was the sole survivor of a family suicide that took place in Gongju, South Chungcheong Province in April committed suicide last Wednesday. Paramedics were called and the teenager, who had drunk herbicide, was immediately transported to Soonchunhyang Hospital in Cheonan. He died on Saturday morning, however.
On April 12, Lee's parents and younger sister set fire to the car they were in parked near the high school that Lee attended, committing family suicide. It was reported that Lee's father chose to die with his family, as he grew more and more pessimistic over his son's failure to adjust to school life.
by You Tae-jong, Chosun Ilbo (June 19, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200506/200506190014.html |
Self-Suicide is one thing, but this is really strange and absurd. It is an extreme example of the pressures exerted on Korean family members. Wow I am speachless. It is so absurd it is difficult for me to feel sadness. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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joe_doufu wrote: |
tzechuk wrote: |
May be the younger sister had no choice.
It is very sad  |
I know it. I get very angry when I hear about murder-suicides. I can't imagine any more selfish thing than killing your loved ones because you want to die, and there's no greater betrayal than being murdered by someone you loved and trusted, like a parent. |
oh, c'mon, it's not that bad |
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Location: Kyungju
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Our frame of reference and our psychology doesn't work here it seems. If Freud, Jung, Maslow and all the others had done sabbaticals in the orient we would probably have more courses in the curricula for adegree in psychology.
Someone in another post said the downside to Korea's rise from nothing to the booming economy that it is included
1 Social isolation
2 Increased competition
3 and something else |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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billybrobby wrote: |
joe_doufu wrote: |
tzechuk wrote: |
May be the younger sister had no choice.
It is very sad  |
I know it. I get very angry when I hear about murder-suicides. I can't imagine any more selfish thing than killing your loved ones because you want to die, and there's no greater betrayal than being murdered by someone you loved and trusted, like a parent. |
oh, c'mon, it's not that bad |
You must be turning Korean if you think murdering a young girl is "not that bad" |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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"Family suicide" is a misnomer.
One person decides and takes others down with him (usually the father).
It's murder-suicide.
And the boy who was left behind had it tough. He should have had a lot of support from family friends, distant relatives and social services. Maybe he did. Or maybe not. Either way, stigma and shame likely followed him closely.
His suicide is the saddest of all. |
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peemil

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Location: Koowoompa
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:51 am Post subject: |
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God- You're the bearer of great news today. First the army story and then this. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:11 am Post subject: |
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How do you force other people to stay in a burning car with you? I'm not saying it's impossible, but at least it's unlikely. If I were in a car with someone who wanted to set it ablaze, even if they had the child safety locks on, I'd kick or punch the window(s) out. It's not an easy thing for sure, but surely even a terrified mother or daughter (though maybe not for the latter; the article doesn't give the "younger" sister's age) could do that.
Sparkles*_* |
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joe_doufu

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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
How do you force other people to stay in a burning car with you? I'm not saying it's impossible, but at least it's unlikely. If I were in a car with someone who wanted to set it ablaze, even if they had the child safety locks on, I'd kick or punch the window(s) out. It's not an easy thing for sure, but surely even a terrified mother or daughter (though maybe not for the latter; the article doesn't give the "younger" sister's age) could do that.
Sparkles*_* |
He probably killed them first. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:52 am Post subject: |
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joe_doufu wrote: |
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
How do you force other people to stay in a burning car with you? I'm not saying it's impossible, but at least it's unlikely. If I were in a car with someone who wanted to set it ablaze, even if they had the child safety locks on, I'd kick or punch the window(s) out. It's not an easy thing for sure, but surely even a terrified mother or daughter (though maybe not for the latter; the article doesn't give the "younger" sister's age) could do that.
Sparkles*_* |
He probably killed them first. |
I can't comprehend the motive in killing oneself, wife, and daughter simply to reproach one's son. But then again, I don't see the motive for anyone to decide to light himself on fire.
Sparkles*_* |
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