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joe_doufu
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:06 am Post subject: semi-free Europe map |
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| For map buffs, heads-up! There's a free wall map of Europe in this month's National Geographic (with the King Tut cover story). It's a good one and I'm using it in my lessons. |
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Derrek
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| The king tut cover from several years back (maybe around 1978?) was a classic cover for National Geographic. I haven't seen the new cover, but I am curious to see it. |
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joe_doufu
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| The new cover is controversial. They've figured out what King Tut looked like (apparently very accurately) but they don't know what his skin color was. So, they took an average of modern-day Egyptians. But, some people believe ancient egyptians were black... so, it's a topic some might argue about. |
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Derrek
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| joe_doufu wrote: |
| The new cover is controversial. They've figured out what King Tut looked like (apparently very accurately) but they don't know what his skin color was. So, they took an average of modern-day Egyptians. But, some people believe ancient egyptians were black... so, it's a topic some might argue about. |
Generally, from the paintings/hyrogliphs I've seen, the kings were NOT black.
Black people were shown as black people. |
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joe_doufu
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
| joe_doufu wrote: |
| The new cover is controversial. They've figured out what King Tut looked like (apparently very accurately) but they don't know what his skin color was. So, they took an average of modern-day Egyptians. But, some people believe ancient egyptians were black... so, it's a topic some might argue about. |
Generally, from the paintings/hyrogliphs I've seen, the kings were NOT black.
Black people were shown as black people. |
Keep in mind all the "paintings" you've seen have been restored and touched-up for thousands of years... so they could have looked like anything way back then. |
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Derrek
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| joe_doufu wrote: |
| Derrek wrote: |
| joe_doufu wrote: |
| The new cover is controversial. They've figured out what King Tut looked like (apparently very accurately) but they don't know what his skin color was. So, they took an average of modern-day Egyptians. But, some people believe ancient egyptians were black... so, it's a topic some might argue about. |
Generally, from the paintings/hyrogliphs I've seen, the kings were NOT black.
Black people were shown as black people. |
Keep in mind all the "paintings" you've seen have been restored and touched-up for thousands of years... so they could have looked like anything way back then. |
I disagree. They've opened tombs and found them in excellent condition. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice that the very dark-brown (almost black) figures standing next to the light-tanned skin figures were different. There were often blacks in the same paintings, along with lighter-colored folks who were the same color as the kings. Your argument just doesn't hold water scientifically. Why would one painting, if painted a black color, fade to light tan if the other figure with black skin next to it does not?
I can respect millions of people of african decent scrambling to create/find some sort of cultural super-identity to take pride in, but ancient Egypt just ain't the place.
Better to follow Oprah's route and claim you're a Zulu.
Either way... big deal. My relatives lived under the trees in ancient Germany (now part of Poland after WWII). |
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joe_doufu
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I dunno, I haven't been in any tomb-openings myself. I've just been reading about the controversy in the National Geographic in question. |
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Derrek
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I've read some interesting books on Tut... especially interesting how everyone involved with that died of weird and often unnatural causes. |
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