flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
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| I am saying that voting rights and campaign issues are two different things. |
Campaign funding is not the same as "campaign issues." It's about the ability to present issues to the public, ALL the public.
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| I wish there were much greater limitations on campaign fund raising. I wish there were a campaign fund ceiling so that a much larger number of people in the US had an actual chance at having a successfull campaign-perhaps a ceiling low enough that a candidate could raise the maximum amount of money for campaigning without ever receiving a penny from large lobbying groups. |
We agree so far, but yoiu are missing the essential crux : to get time on the airwaves, you gotta sign a check, so your wishes and mine seem to be in synch, but still if wishes were horses ...
The solution is simple and has been for a while. The publlic airwaves are owned by the public and regulated by the govt. You want ot sell cat food, thgen hey, every 4 years you gotta give some time to people who are running for office. That is in our power as a nation and a govt. We can do it - but we don't.
It amounts to a free giveaway of a national resource, just like saying, "Here, log all the trees out of Yellowstone and Yosemite, and don't even think about kicking back a dime to the people who gave it to you ...."
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| Bit I'm still in favor of one person, one vote. |
As long as you refuse to recognize or acknowledge the impact of money, it is one person, 5000 votes, or more.
That was my point, and you tried to make it mute, but have failed. |
First of all, I think the word you're looking for is, "moot" not "mute." Secondly, I didn't try to make it moot, I tried to distinguish it from the OP. I agree that the campaiging process needs some big changes-changes that greatly reduce or completely do away with big lobbyist leverage. Call it campaign funding or campaigning issues, I don't care. Both of them are separate issues from suffrage. And why would say that, "I refuse to recognize or acknowledge the impact of money?" I most certainly do not. Money has far too big of an effect on campaigning and those who gave the money have far too much leverage over those they are supporting. What I refuse is to do is to even consider the idea that the solution to our electoral problems should be solved by changing the voting rights of the citizenry. |
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