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R. S. Refugee
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Ya-ta Boy
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| From what I've read and heard this week, you don't need to drag up events in 1953 to understand what happened. Reports were that comments by US administration figures outraged Iranians and motivated them to get out and vote for the hard-liner. If true, all I can say is, "Way to shoot yourself in the foot Iranians and Bushies." |
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R. S. Refugee
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| From what I've read and heard this week, you don't need to drag up events in 1953 to understand what happened. Reports were that comments by US administration figures outraged Iranians and motivated them to get out and vote for the hard-liner. If true, all I can say is, "Way to shoot yourself in the foot Iranians and Bushies." |
US intervention in the form of a CIA-orchestrated coup to overthrow a democratically elected government in 1953 is very applicable and the US MSM's amnesia concerning such inconvenient facts will always hurt the interests of most Americans though it apparently serves the interests of our ruling oligarchy. FDR's son was in charge of that coup, I recall.
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:12 am Post subject: |
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I'm going to have to disagree. The root of the problem goes back just a tad bit further than 1953.
There was a revolt in the days of Shah Chosroes and he fled to the court of Maurice, Emperor of Byzantium. After some years there, Chosroes was able to regain his throne. When Maurice and his sons were killed in a palace revolt (Maurice was forced to watch his five sons executed first) and Phocas, a centurian became emperor, Chosroes was outraged by the fate of his 'father' as he thought of Maurice and invaded the Byzantine Empire. In a relative short time Persia conquered Syria, Palestine, Egypt and Asia Minor. The Emperor Phocus was assassinated and Heraclius ascended the throne. In 622, after years of preparation, Heraclius set out to reconquer the lost territories. Peace came in 628, with the borders back to where they had pretty much been for the last 6 or 7 centuries.
Only four years later the Moslems set out from Mecca to attack the exhausted Greek and Persian empires. In a very few years they were at the gates of Constantinople and had over-run Persia. Soon after that the Shi'ites split with the Sunnis (because they had not found a way to transfer power peacefully) and the rest is history.
So, I posit that the problems in the Middle East can be traced to the failure of the Greeks to find a way to transfer power peacefully because it produced a major international war that exhausted two empires and opened the door for the early Moslems to conquer the whole place. So rather than dump on the hapless CIA, we should be nuking Athens. It's all their fault. |
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Gopher
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Kuros
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Or, this selection could be a good thing.
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| "It's a good thing for Iran because it ends all the deception and pretence," the source, who requested anonymity, told AFP. |
If you think America or even Bush had anything significantly to do with this selection I think you put more importance on American power than Ahab did on a certain white whale. |
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