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Can a Korean with a PR card travel in US without a visa?

 
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Abashiri



Joined: 19 Dec 2003
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Can a Korean with a PR card travel in US without a visa? Reply with quote

My wife just got her Canadian PR card and we are gonna fly to Canada. We were wondering if she will have to apply for a visa or anything if we want to drive through the US...

PS.. we applied for her PR card in January and got it in May - not bad!
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a definitive answer, call the US embassy. Most likely the information they give you will be a tad more accurate than the guy on here who will say that he's never been in your situation, but his co-worker's friend heard from a drunk guy in the bar that...
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Abashiri



Joined: 19 Dec 2003
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: thnaks Reply with quote

Obviously you have never tried calling the US embassy.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think that she would still need a visa as she is travelling on a korean passport. Just because she has residence doesn't make her a canadian citizen and they are the ones with the visa free travel.

Try looking on the embassy website for details.
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pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, isn't that special. With one swing of the bat you ruined my weekend. We sent in my wife's application back in November and are still waiting. We, unfortunately, went through some company that took care of most of the application crap for what I consider a ridiculous fee. (Don't ask.)

We don't plan to head back to Canada until November or so, so we have time. But, obviously as we near that time we'll get more and more concerned. I think I may have to keep this little secret to myself for now. Else, I think my weekend could really suck.

I would think that she should have no problem entering the US. PR is almost the same as citizenship. There are only a few things they don't qualify for, but you probably knew that. Just my opinion, which isn't worth much when dealing with immigration of any kind.

Congratulations.
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canadian_in_korea



Joined: 20 Jun 2004
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think crazylemongirl is right, she isn't a canadian citizen so she might need a visa. Your best bet is to e-mail the american embassy i've done it a few times and they get back to you within a day or two.
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funplanet



Joined: 20 Jun 2003
Location: The new Bucheon!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, she can....any landed immigrant of Canada can travel to the US just like a Canadian citizen...

no sweat
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funplanet



Joined: 20 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my apologies....I just called an immigration lawyer friend and he said that, due to the Patriot Act, et al...the rules have been changed...

she will need a visa as Korea is not a participant in the VWP
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely not...she needs a visa. Koreans are not in VWP..Visa Waiver Program and will not be for a few years still to come. If that. Koreans get their act together...and they could get VWP status.
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funplanet



Joined: 20 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the law USE TO BE that any Canadian landed immigrant could enter the US w/o visa, regardless of citizenship...

but, thanks to the "war on terror" Rolling Eyes it's no longer allowed
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can give you the definitive 1st-hand answer: NO. She will need to apply for a visa.
Be prepared to make an appointment at the nearest consulate and shell out money at every step of the way.
My wife (a 3yr PR) just got a 10 year visa last year and that was at least in part due to my employment, as well as hers.
We know of PRs who have been refused a visitor's visa to the US for no reason other than the Immigration official was not satisfied with the interview in terms of the PR's employment status in Canada and the reasons for travel to the US.

"Permanent residents of Canada must have a nonimmigrant visa unless the permanent resident is a national of a country that participates in the visa waiver program (VWP), meets the VWP requirements, and is seeking to enter the U.S. for 90 days or less under that program."


South Korea does not "particpate" in the Visa Waiver Program.

http://www.usembassycanada.gov/content/content.asp?section=can_usa&subsection1=borderissues&document=borderhelp_temporaryvisitors

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1759.html#1

http://travel.state.gov/visa/visa_1750.html
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: thnaks Reply with quote

Abashiri wrote:
Obviously you have never tried calling the US embassy.

In Canada they charge something like $2 per minute to call the embassy/consulate on visa info inquiries (and you WILL be put on hold if you want to speak to a real live person).

You can make a reservation online to book an appointment for an interview to apply for a visa (mandatory, I think; I have no idea what happens if you're up in 100 Mile House or something), but have your credit card ready- it'll cost $15. You'll have to bring money to interview for the application fee (I think for us it was around $110).

What they never tell you:

The first time you cross the border you will have to pull over and go fill out more paperwork. You will also have to pay $6. They will give you piece of paper (I can't remember what they officially called it and I won't try to guess, but it's not the visa- that is the facy page that you already ahve in your passport) that you must show when entering the US. It's good for 6 months ONLY, and must be returned to a US customs agent at a border station, airport, or consulate BEFORE it expires. Failure to do so could jeopardize the visa (or so we were told). You don't have to get one every six months, but you will need to get another if your old one has expired.
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Abashiri



Joined: 19 Dec 2003
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Thanks for all the info! I guess it was a good idea to ask on Dave's!
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