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chotaerang
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| rapier wrote: |
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And did the parents of those black kids enjoy the same rights, say to vote, that yours did? |
Do your 5 year old students run your school? What are they responsible for..making the syllabus, or driving the minivan? |
Please reread the question. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| chotaerang wrote: |
| rapier wrote: |
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And did the parents of those black kids enjoy the same rights, say to vote, that yours did? |
Do your 5 year old students run your school? What are they responsible for..making the syllabus, or driving the minivan? |
Please reread the question. |
I answer your question with another question.
"Would you allow your 5yr old kids to drive your mercedes convertible along highway 9, knowing full well it would result in tragedy, -just so afterwards you could say "at least we let them have freedom for a short while"? |
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rapier
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:07 am Post subject: |
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As far as property goes - in the DPRK for instance, the state provides approved clothing, approved shelter, approved haircuts and many other items that people require to live.
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North Korea Declares War on Long Hair
SEOUL, South Korea - The order to shaggy-haired North Korean men couldn't be clearer: Get a trim like Kim. The reclusive communist country is waging a hair war, telling its male population to lose the long locks, cut the coiffures and mow the mane to conform to "socialist style" — no longer than two inches.
http://www.stophairlossnow.co.uk/News/News266.htm
The "patriotic quiff": provided free of charge by the state!!. Wisest choice ..ahem..only choice for the average North Korean man.
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chotaerang
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
| chotaerang wrote: |
| rapier wrote: |
| chotaerang wrote: |
And did the parents of those black kids enjoy the same rights, say to vote, that yours did? |
Do your 5 year old students run your school? What are they responsible for..making the syllabus, or driving the minivan? |
Please reread the question. |
I answer your question with another question.
"Would you allow your 5yr old kids to drive your mercedes convertible along highway 9, knowing full well it would result in tragedy, -just so afterwards you could say "at least we let them have freedom for a short while"? |
The word 'racist' gets thrown around all too easily as a means of attacking someone's position. But really, black Africans in the late 20th century are the five-year old kids and the whites are the adults with 'their' mercedes? |
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rapier
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Chotaerang:
sadly, black rule in Africa has proved to be a disaster. They were'nt ready for it, simple fact. Not in the modern era. Those of us who were there knew that decades ago: those of you who weren't simply harp on your pet theories about racism etc from your narrow western sociological viewpoints.
Whites were the custodians of Africa, guiding it forward gradually. racism is a word I never even heard until i arrived in the west.
Whites were quite simply, another one of Africas many tribes, and regarded as such. Within zimbabwe you have 2 main black tribes..ethnically and linguistically different. they have and still are oppressing and committing violence upon eachother, raping and stealing eachothers territory. But I suppose thats ok with you, because they have dark skin. |
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JacktheCat
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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To all those who say black Africans can't run a government, I have one word for you Botswana.
Botswana is one of the economical and political wonder stories of the latter part of the twentieth century. It has the record for longest sustainted economic growth (+10 percent for 35 years) among many other laudable achievements.
A dirt poor, backasswards desert country with a few diamond mines at it's independence from the U.K., it has transferred itself into a thriving and high tech country with the highest per capita income on the continent and is now classified as a developed country by the UN. All achieved by a black democratic government. |
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rapier
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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To all those who say black Africans can't run a government, I have one word for you Botswana.
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-because theres so few of them in the country and they live in a desert- and have welcomed whites in to help them.
I have 50 words for you:
Burundi
DR Congo
Kenya
Malawi
Rwanda
Tanzania
Uganda
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Somalia
Sudan
Cameroon
CAR
Chad
Equatorial Guinea
Gabon
Niger Republic of the Congo
Angola
Madagascar
Mozambique
Namibia
South Africa
Zambia
Zimbabwe
Benin
Burkina Faso
Côte d'Ivoire
Gambia
Ghana
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Liberia
Mali
Mauritania
Nigeria
Senegal
Sierra Leone
Togo
Western Sahara
Algeria
Tunisia |
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chotaerang
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Location: In the gym
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
| JacktheCat wrote: |
To all those who say black Africans can't run a government, I have one word for you Botswana.
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-because theres so few of them in the country and they live in a desert- and have welcomed whites in to help them.
I have 50 words for you:
Burundi
DR Congo
Kenya
Malawi
Rwanda
Tanzania
Uganda
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Somalia
Sudan
Cameroon
CAR
Chad
Equatorial Guinea
Gabon
Niger Republic of the Congo
Angola
Madagascar
Mozambique
Namibia
South Africa
Zambia
Zimbabwe
Benin
Burkina Faso
Côte d'Ivoire
Gambia
Ghana
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Liberia
Mali
Mauritania
Nigeria
Senegal
Sierra Leone
Togo
Western Sahara
Algeria
Tunisia |
Let's include the Middle East (except Israel) and North Korea on this list. The common denominator is not blackness, but kleptomaniac thugs spreading misery far and wide.
As for preferentially heaping blame upon whites, this is untrue. I'll not miss any chance to condemn the Arab dictatorship of the Sudan for Darfur. At the same time, citing examples of Africans poor treatment of other Africans does not get whites off the hook for slavery, white-minority rule, and carving up Africa into an assortment of countries where tribal rivalries set the future states up for failure. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| JacktheCat wrote: |
To all those who say black Africans can't run a government, I have one word for you Botswana.
Botswana is one of the economical and political wonder stories of the latter part of the twentieth century. It has the record for longest sustainted economic growth (+10 percent for 35 years) among many other laudable achievements |
This is admirable.....however,
AIDS is chopping down the population and is becoming a huge problem in this country..it easily has the highest prevelance rate in the world at 37.9%. That is more than 1 in 3 people you would meet had HIV or AIDS.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/hea_hiv_aid_adu_pre_rat&int=-1
What is worse is almost 2% of children have HIV/AIDS as well which bodes ill for future generations...what about all the pent up frustrations...
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/hea_chi_liv_wit_aid_cap
Seriously Botswana is in big trouble..... |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| chotaerang wrote: |
| does not get whites off the hook for slavery, white-minority rule, and carving up Africa into an assortment of countries where tribal rivalries set the future states up for failure. |
Slavery was started in Africa by Arab traders.
Seriously, in Zimbabwe, there are still ancient mooring posts for Arab dhows visible along the Runde river, for example. Africans co-operated in the trade, selling their own people for beads and weapons, etc.
Tribal rivalries were big before whites arrived, and would have continued unabated if whites had not brought law and order. As for the random border demarcations drawn up by European colonists, this wouldn't have made much difference to long term tribalism. |
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chotaerang
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| chotaerang wrote: |
Slavery was started in Africa by Arab traders.
Seriously, in Zimbabwe, there are still ancient mooring posts for Arab dhows visible along the Runde river, for example. Africans co-operated in the trade, selling their own people for beads and weapons, etc. |
Right. This is a burden of guilt that Arabs and Africans bear. The burden of guilt that we (whites) bear is in exponentially expanding the size of the slave trade all the while claiming that we were bringing civilization to benighted Africa.
I don't think there's more to say about this legacy of greed, racism, and self-serving hypocrisy. The last word on the subject is yours. |
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