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mullethunter



Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Location: may i present... the euro mullet

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:18 am    Post subject: exactly 10 years ago today.... Reply with quote

was talking to my neighbour this evening, and complaining about the crap job the construction workers did on our villa, when she told me that today is the tenth anniversary of the sampoong department store collapse. i had no idea Shocked

my question is this; have there been any improvements in building codes? after seeing how construction is done around here, including my place, i suspect not too much has changed Mad .
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bourquetheman



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to let the construction company off the hook but I heard that what happened was after the building had been built, the dept. store wanted more space so they started knocking out the support pillars that were in place. This resulted with the ultimate collapse. At least that's what I heard.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard it was poor quality steel and concrete mixtures.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many died in that?
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

501 or 502, depending where you ask.

Here's an interesting take:
http://www.hazardcards.com/card.php?id=8

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During construction Mr. Joon decided to add an extra floor with a swimming pool. The engineering firm complained that the new design was unsafe and Mr. Joon replied by giving them the pink slip. Instead he hired another engineering firm that was part of his own corporation. The building was completed according to his wishes, without any reinforcement of the fifth floor. It was discovered after the accident that inferior concrete had been used by the engineering company as well as highly insufficient structural support.

At that time Korea was addressing some severe problems with corruption, but unfortunately this process only dealt with the high ranking officials and therefore the construction of the department store was completed with the approval of corrupt junior officials. These were the officials who could have stopped the project.

Despite its numerous structural problems, which were all known to Mr. Joon, the department store stood for six years. Two days before the collapse, a worker noted a gas leak and recommended that the store be closed for repair. His request was denied. At the day of the collapse, the ceiling on the fifth floor started crumbling. The only response to this was an order from Mr. Joon to move the expensive merchandise from the fifth to the ground floor. In spite of a crumbling ceiling and a gas pipe leaking, Mr. Joon refused to evacuate the building.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard about that tragedy even before arrival, back in 1997.

Never got the details though.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the same article: "Mr. Joon was convicted seven and a half years in prison and twelve of the officials, as well as some engineers, were sentenced to prison. "


So he's out now.
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rok_the-boat



Joined: 24 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was here when the dept' store collapsed and followed the story as close as I could as I used to go there to eat. I say as close as I could because there was lots of misinformation.

My take is this: There had been previous construction - an added floor, but that was not the immediate problem. The direct cause was moving a large water tank on the roof. They drained it, moved it, and started filling it up. Of course, they moved it to a place where structurally, it was not supposed to be, and those tanks are very heavy indeed. That was what I read immediately afterwards but it seemed to 'disappear' once the additional floor story was discovered.

And yes, inspection revealed inferior cement - duff sand (for those not in the know, there are many kinds of sand and the beach variety is not the best for building - indeed, there is one UK company that was famous for selling sand to the Arabs - I digress). One reporter raised the obvious question - Who built it and what else have they built? - of course, that story quickly disappeared, but not before locals discovered that, yup, their appartments had been built by that same company ...

And I bet that company is still in business dealing in the same sand ...
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simone



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Now Mostly @ Home

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Sampoong Reply with quote

There was a great series on the Learning Channel we'd watch when we were in Canada this past year: "Countdown to disaster" or something like that. It would count forwards to the moment of awful events, like the Sarin gas attack in the Tokyo subway, the Sampoong collapse... and so on.

It was freaky, actually, to see such a well-documented play by play. Shoddy materials, changes in the design during construction, and a huge water tank in the wrong place on the roof all contributed. And yes, all the $%^$% in suits managed to get out long before it happened, without a word to the shoppers and lower-ranking employees.

Simone
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