Korean Job Discussion Forums

[nickthegreek]

How long can a school blacklist a teacher if he/she runs away. Leaves without notice. I heard, it could be the duration of the contract, and also it would be for live. Korea will never give you an E-2 visa. May someone clarify this for me.

Thank you in advance.

[jlb]

That seems to be the eternal question that no one really knows.

What I can tell you is that on an E2, unless you have a release letter you cannot switch jobs. If you run, you will not have a release letter and therefore cannot work at another job legally for the duration of your contract.

As for being blacklisted, I have no idea. Maybe phone immigration and ask for the "official" answer. Maybe phone some different province's immigration offices and see if this "official" answer varies. This is Korea we're talking about.

[Grotto]

There is no blacklist for FT's
Once the duration of your contract is through there is nothing they can do.

[Captain Corea]

[chronicpride]

[deessell]

A true story......

In 2002 I did a midnight run to Thailand. After a month I decided to come back and get a new job. I found a new school, they applied for my new visa. I received a phone call from my agent saying that I was blacklisted. She asked me if I "would go and talk to my old school and ask for forgiveness". I said no way, as I was scared he would hit me. She said she would try and solve this. Solving this became taking the immigration officer out for dinner and paying for the services of some friendly ladies.

So, in my opinion it depends how badly the school wants you. Money talks.

[chronicpride]

[pegpig]

Don't know about the immigration blacklist.

But, there is a FT blacklist similar to the one we teachers look at when we're checking out schools. I don't have the link, but I think it came up here on Dave's somewhere before. It was all in Korean - duh. If a school puts you on there, obviously there is no statute of limitations. It might be nice to find that link.

[livinginkorea]

[fancypants]

i once quit a job from hell after 3 months..
(see the "stay away from hamilton institute thread")
the boss had serious delusions of immigration omnipotence and said he would deport me forever from korea. i kind of laughed (nervously) at the threat but when i visited the immigration office for advice after he refused to give me a letter of release, they said that i had "child beater" on my file and that i might not be able to get another job in korea ever again if i didn't get a LOR: this nasty and completely unfounded claim was the nasty vengeful doing of said evil omnipotent god of FTs. the immigration guy said that if i DIDN"T get a LOR then i should submit letters attesting to my kind character with my next E2 application (9 months from then, when my old E2 expired) but that there were no guarantees. you can imagine how furious i was, albeit non-violently so.

personal references are kind of glue in korean society. in fact, the immigration guy said that the LOR isn't so much a release from your previous stint as it is a personal recommendation from your old boss. the absence of a LOR means your boss isn't recommending you.

in the end, i got my LOR (which i suppose neutralised the child beater claim) and submitted it with my next E2 application, which i got no problem.

to make a long story short, my case indicates that evil wanjangnims can call up immigration, tell lies about you, and they will stick the lies onto your file in the event you don't get a LOR. you may never know about it (i discovered my "black mark" kind of accidentally).

also, i presume previous LORs (recommendations) may act to counteract absent LORs (non-recommendations) from vengeful despotic hagwon directors.

[canukteacher]

Immigration does not have a centalized system. Different regional offices are responsible for various towns and cities. This is why, everytime we take a new job we have to go through the same paperwork circus. Immigration offices between Donghae and Dageu have my information.

Now, that's not to say that they would not find out if you have a black mark in another region, but I think the chances could be slim (just my opinion).

I could not get a LOR from my job prior to this one unless I bought it. I refused. The school and myself had to go together to Immigration with some papers and I was given an exit order. As soon as the exit order was issued my new school was able to start the visa issuance process. I also was not worried that my old school would try to me blacklist me. What I did was not bad. Bascially, they made an example of me, so future teachers would not do what I did (enough said).

CT

[astroboyfan]

Of course they will find out. Why else would u keep the same ARC card #