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Which do you prefer to use? |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Gordie,
What are you on?
And thanks for the personal insults.
To quote myself Gordie
Its hardly logical to think that the North Korea population would not want to reunify and would not want to get rid of their current system of government.
Read slowly dude...this is talking about reunification..reunification..reunification....and my opinion as to the reactions of the people now living in north korea to a possible reunification..reunification..reunification with South korea.
So you caught me Gordo, I called North Korea.....North Korea...guilty as charged for calling it what its currently called.
Wow, you are clever and smoked me out on that one...well done gordie.
Now hardandtiny,
I also want to thank you for resorting to simple name calling. That was very nice of you.
Now about the "C" or the "K", it doesn't make a bit of diffence to me how the country is spelled. My point is just its up to koreans to decide since its their country. No need for precendents here.
If it stays as Korea cool. If they change cool. It won't change a thing in my life. |
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The King of Kwangju

Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Location: New York City
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 7:51 am Post subject: |
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That formalizing the spelling from "C" to "K" doesn't make much sense doesn't mean its not true. That it contradicts what Japan later tried to do with this "Nippon" business in the 30's also doesn't mean its not true.
As I mentioned in another thread on the same subject, is it so hard to believe that some petty Japanese bureaucrats tried to force Korea down the English alphabet? Knowing what I do of the Land of the Rising Sun and of bureaucracies in general, it wouldn't surprise me at all. |
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Phishstick
Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 8:20 am Post subject: |
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The problem here is not pontificating over the proper historical name for Korea ( yeah that's right KOREA ), but why is this nation so passionate about the spelling of their name in a foreign language. It really spells a negative vibe over the culture. I could never understand the injustices caused by the Japanese in recent memoray, but it has come to the point of reconciling. I'd rather the government just change their English name, which they can and have every right to - good reason or bad reason, or even better, JUST GET OVER IT! |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Homer:
You seem to be missing the point. Nations do NOT have control over their names in other languages. That is determined, at the official level, by lexicographers, who take into account how the language is spoken in the day-to-day world. Now, if Korea demands that English speakers switch over to the "C" spelling, and most English speakers agree to do this, then the dictionaries will eventually make the change. But, the key agents here are the English speakers, not the Koreans. Heck, Roh Moo-hyun can't even control his own followers these days, ya really think he's callin' the shots down at Webster's? |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 8:33 am Post subject: |
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on the other hand
I agree with you about that. but if they want to try and change it its their choice. Let the, present it to the proper authorities.
Like I said. I couldn't care less if its C or K...I just see it as a choice for Koreans to make. just like when some of the former soviet regions deciced to name their new independant countries, or when balkan nations were split up they chose their names. |
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Phishstick
Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 9:39 am Post subject: |
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President Roh did have control over his romanized name. He did not want to be refered to as President "No", or my personal favorite, "Dr. No." The Chinese character standing for his name had two pronunciations, one with an "N" sound and one with an "R" sound. He opted for the latter, but this could be another Korean legend. |
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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HardyandTiny wrote: |
TaHanMiguk or MinGuk. |
of little consequence, but just so you all are clear on this.
daehanminguk - republic of korea (south)
han-guk - south korea (colloquial)
joseon minjujueui inmin gonghwaguk - people's democratic republic of korea (north)
joseon- north korea (colloquial)
'minguk' is not really a word. |
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supernick
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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How about Coy'rea? The number one excuse is shyness, and when they aren't really shy, they pretend to be.
Jokes aside, the arguement is stupid. Koreans who want it with a C is because C comes before J as in Japan.
How about Gorea?
Anyway, Korea is the English name for Coree, so if the Koreans aren't telling the French how to spell it, then they have no right to tell the English world how to spell it.
On the final tests, any students who spell Korea with a C will be given an F by me. And they have been warned. |
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matko

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: in a world of hurt!
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Homer,
Which balkan nation chose the English name for their country? |
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Korea Newfie

Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:21 am Post subject: |
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supernick wrote: |
On the final tests, any students who spell Korea with a C will be given an F by me. And they have been warned. |
I've marked students wrong for that. They complain, but hey, it's not right. If you're willing to take of marks for spelling Canada as "Kanada" then it's the same for Corea. I won't give an F on the whole test, but I treat as any other mistake. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:23 am Post subject: Re: Korea or Corea? |
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The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
Which do you prefer?
Corea or Korea?
And, why? |
Whatever they want, it's their country. |
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matko

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: in a world of hurt!
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:32 am Post subject: |
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butterfly,
In Canada it's Korea, whatever WE want. It's OUR country. |
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HardyandTiny

Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Homer wrote: |
Now hardandtiny,
I also want to thank you for resorting to simple name calling. That was very nice of you.
I must admit however that Jackass was an entertaining movie.
Now about the "C" or the "K", it doesn't make a bit of diffence to me how the country is spelled. My point is just its up to koreans to decide since its their country. No need for precendents here.
If it stays as Korea cool. If they change cool. It won't change a thing in my life. |
This would mean that somehow it is possible for the USA to change the spelling of "Hanguk" in Korean characters to say, "Monguk". I just don't see how this could be done.
How can Korea change the spelling of a word in English? That is the point. They can change the spelling on street signs, etc.., but they can not change the spelling in the English language.
Oh yeah and sorry about "Jackass", that was the beer. I didn't like the film actually. |
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:57 am Post subject: |
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How can Korea change the spelling of a word in English? That is the point. They can change the spelling on street signs, etc.., but they can not change the spelling in the English language. |
well, they did it about 3 years ago when they changed the romanisation system here. Pusan becomes Busan in all future English publications.
Countries are always changing their names - burma/myanmar, ceylon/sri lanka, cambodia/kampuchea etc. There's no fundamental difference between changing all the letters and just changing one letter.
not that the 'corea' camp has any real case for making the change, however |
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Mellow Mushroom

Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:32 am Post subject: |
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C'mon people, how can you not vote for Corea? Chic was one of the greatest jazz musicians ever.  |
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