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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Sleepy in Seoul wrote: |
Because U.S. employers don't recognise CELTA certificates is no reason not to get one. Far from it - it would appear that it could only enhance one's credibility.
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Actually, if you are an American who plans to start or continue a teaching career back in the U.S., I would say that it not being recognized by American employers is a very good reason not to get a CELTA.
I'm not sure what your America bashing has to do with anything else. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Son Deureo! wrote: |
| Sleepy in Seoul wrote: |
Because U.S. employers don't recognise CELTA certificates is no reason not to get one. Far from it - it would appear that it could only enhance one's credibility.
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Actually, if you are an American who plans to start or continue a teaching career back in the U.S., I would say that it not being recognized by American employers is a very good reason not to get a CELTA.
I'm not sure what your America bashing has to do with anything else. |
I don't know why he/she got off on that tangent either.
Some people are so protective of the coveted CELTA that they feel it is the be-all-end-all of ESL education. It's a good course from what I've heard, and it can only help you, but if it's not needed for 90% of the jobs in Korea -- why bother?
Actually, it's my experience that in the jobs where they do ask for a CELTA (Hankuk university, if memory serves), it is the lowest common denominator for qualification: BA+CELTA. What they really want is someone with a Masters or higher.
Pointing out these facts rubs some people the wrong way, and I suppose that's why we get offbeat attacks against the American educational system (in this case math and science, which doesn't make much sense in the ESL world). |
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NVNO1
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Boston
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Ummm ... right.
So my SIT certification will be helpful for a first-time ESL teacher in the ROK, yes? |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| NVNO1 wrote: |
Ummm ... right.
So my SIT certification will be helpful for a first-time ESL teacher in the ROK, yes? |
Any teaching certificate you could put on your resume would be a feather in your cap for almost any job, except one of the 2 or 3 you'll find on the job board that insist on exact qualifications they ask for.
And the key here is: In a year or two, what qualifications will they be asking for at certain jobs?
I should clarify that I don't see Korea telling everyone that they must have a certain kind of TEFL/TESL to teach here. If they did that, they well know they'd be cutting their own throats (there would be too few teachers for too many positions, and it would upset the education industry too mcuh).
I'm talking about what education they will accept in order for you to qualify for a higher pay level in certain jobs, or to qualify for a few university jobs that ask for it. |
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wigan4
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:49 am Post subject: |
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"These are things adults will notice and appreciate. These are things you learn in a good TEFL course. Personally, I also gained a hell of a lot of confidence in my course. The most valuable aspect for me was the teaching practicum. Can't get that online."
This is the comment I see all the time. I have a slightly different question. Suppose you're already a certified teacher. In that case, of course, you're already proficient at the mechanics of teaching--making lesson plans, running a class, discipline, etc. What you don't have, of course, is the ESL knowledge base and the specfic experience of teaching english to non-speakers, both of which are important.
But I'm not sure they're '4-6 weeks worth of boot camp plus $2500 out of pocket and a month's income lost' important. So in that case, where your primary goal is not the credential (since you already have a great teaching credential) but the knowledge required, what would be a good online course to insert that information into your bag of tricks?
And I realize even in that case you'd get more from a CELTA than an online course, but as I say, in this case I'm not sure that increment is worth the extra $2200, effort, plus lost income. |
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