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Always Curious
Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Location: In the corner
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject: Another new contract - sensible advice please! |
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I took the good advice of the helpful board members and decided to continue my job search, and received this contract which I'd happily sign, however the lack of training period and any mention of continuous work assessment are major turn-offs. Do you think I would be able to negotiate to get such clauses inserted in the contract as I think they would be very helpful for me.
The school is called ESI and is located in Busan near Gwangan subway station, so I'm told. Is Busan worth teaching in?
Anyway, sensible comments and advice please?
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TEACHING CONTRACT
DESCRIPTION : This document describes a contractual agreement between English Success International (hereafter called "the Institute") and ________________________ (hereafter called "the Teacher") who agrees to teach for a period of no less than one year between the dates of _____________________ and _________________________________.
1. Duration of contract
This contract is valid for one year, starting from _______________________________. The Teacher must inform the Institute on whether s/he would like to renew the contract not less than one (1) month prior to the end of the one (1) year of service and the contract may be renewed by mutual agreement. The Institute will ensure to give notice not less than two (2) months prior to the end of the one (1) year of service if a new contract will not be offered.
2. Payment
Monthly payment shall be 2,100,000 won in Korean currency, with pay day falling on the tenth (10th) day of each month. The Teacher will receive the full severance pay at the end of the year on successful completion of the one (1) year contract. The Teacher will be paid 20,000won/hour as an overtime teaching payment if s/he teaches more than twenty-five (25) hours in one week, however overtime classes are voluntary and will not be scheduled until full consultation between the Institute and the Teacher has taken place.
3. Work Schedule
The Teacher is contracted to teach a maximum of twenty-five (25) hours per week, split evenly with a maximum of five (5) hours per day. The Teacher is contracted to be scheduled at any time between the hours of 11am and 5pm, Monday to Friday with no Saturday scheduling. The teacher will work according to the institute's schedule and should follow any schedule changes which may occur, although the Institute will endeavor to give as much advance notice as possible of changes to scheduled classes within these stated work hours.
4. Travel expenses and living accommodations
The institute will provide the Teacher with a single furnished apartment, and pay for the cost of round trip air ticket to the Teacher��s home country.
Furnishings include: bed, TV, video recorder, refrigerator, gas range & oven, washing machine, pots & pans, cooking & eating utensils, sofa, clothes closet, kitchen table & chairs, bed linen etc.
5. Holiday and Vacation
Ten (10) days paid holidays per year shall be given to the Teacher as well as all regular Korean national holidays. Holidays are typically given as one (1) week in summer and one (1) week in winter. The Institute will endeavor to give as much advance notice as possible of the actual dates of holidays.
6. Teaching
The Teacher will accept the lawful instructions of the academic director of the Institute, and will carry out all teaching duties to the best of his/her ability.
The two parties have read, understood, and agreed to the above stated terms and conditions on the date signed below.
DATE:__________________ Teacher��s signature: _______________________________________
DATE:__________________ Academic Director��s signature: _____________________________________ |
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PaperTiger

Joined: 31 May 2005 Location: Ulaanbataar
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:19 am Post subject: A bit brief isn't it? |
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Will they provide materials? How much work do you have to do outside of class? What is it? Do you have to do phone testing and will you paid overtime for it? How many pyeong is my apartment? Will I have to share it (get a single, trust me)? Do I have to pay "key money"? How much and for how long? What is your policy on sick days?
The lack of details in this contract are appalling. You should definately ask for more details. I can't begin to tell you all the details you should ask about...I've got a meeting. Good luck. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Another new contract - sensible advice please! |
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Always Curious wrote: |
I took the good advice of the helpful board members and decided to continue my job search, and received this contract which I'd happily sign, however the lack of training period and any mention of continuous work assessment are major turn-offs. Do you think I would be able to negotiate to get such clauses inserted in the contract as I think they would be very helpful for me.
The school is called ESI and is located in Busan near Gwangan subway station, so I'm told. Is Busan worth teaching in?
Anyway, sensible comments and advice please? |
First things, don't worry about the training period. Even if it is stated, it will probably consist of one or two days of shadowing the old teacher...and that's if you're lucky. My training consisted of "here are you books, you class schedule, your desk. Now teach."
Continuous work assessment? Don't even bother. Unless you are planning to make this a lifetime career, it's not that big a deal. I haven't seen a clause including it since I got here. Remember, the owner/supervisor or whoever will tell you if you're doing something wrong. Koreans, as I've seen, typically love telling the whitey what they're doing wrong.
On to the contract...
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TEACHING CONTRACT
DESCRIPTION : This document describes a contractual agreement between English Success International (hereafter called "the Institute") and ________________________ (hereafter called "the Teacher") who agrees to teach for a period of no less than one year between the dates of _____________________ and _________________________________.
1. Duration of contract
This contract is valid for one year, starting from _______________________________. The Teacher must inform the Institute on whether s/he would like to renew the contract not less than one (1) month prior to the end of the one (1) year of service and the contract may be renewed by mutual agreement. The Institute will ensure to give notice not less than two (2) months prior to the end of the one (1) year of service if a new contract will not be offered. |
Pretty standard here. Nothing out of the ordinary.
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2. Payment
Monthly payment shall be 2,100,000 won in Korean currency, with pay day falling on the tenth (10th) day of each month. The Teacher will receive the full severance pay at the end of the year on successful completion of the one (1) year contract. The Teacher will be paid 20,000won/hour as an overtime teaching payment if s/he teaches more than twenty-five (25) hours in one week, however overtime classes are voluntary and will not be scheduled until full consultation between the Institute and the Teacher has taken place. |
This is actually pretty good. The one thing you should clarify is how many actual classes that is. Is it 25 classes at 50 minutes? or like 35 classes at 40 minutes? If it's 25 classes, that's good.
Also, you should get it in writing what they're offering in terms of airfare and other stuff. If they pay on the 10th, does the month run until the 9th? or is your pay delayed 10 days? Either way is cool but if it's delayed, you'll have problems if you think you might do a runner.
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3. Work Schedule
The Teacher is contracted to teach a maximum of twenty-five (25) hours per week, split evenly with a maximum of five (5) hours per day. The Teacher is contracted to be scheduled at any time between the hours of 11am and 5pm, Monday to Friday with no Saturday scheduling. The teacher will work according to the institute's schedule and should follow any schedule changes which may occur, although the Institute will endeavor to give as much advance notice as possible of changes to scheduled classes within these stated work hours. |
This is cool. I like the blocked out time schedule of 6 hours. It doesn't say anything about required prep time though or extra-curricular activities. Of course, this could be a good thing if you plan on sticking to the letter of this contract exactly.
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4. Travel expenses and living accommodations
The institute will provide the Teacher with a single furnished apartment, and pay for the cost of round trip air ticket to the Teacher��s home country.
Furnishings include: bed, TV, video recorder, refrigerator, gas range & oven, washing machine, pots & pans, cooking & eating utensils, sofa, clothes closet, kitchen table & chairs, bed linen etc. |
Oops, there's the airfare mentioned. Missed it on the first run through. Get it clarified how and when they will pay.
Housing looks pretty standard. Might want to get it written in that the housing will be within walking distance of the school or close to a subway or something. Don't want to find out the apt is 1-hour away and you have to pay to get to school every day.
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5. Holiday and Vacation
Ten (10) days paid holidays per year shall be given to the Teacher as well as all regular Korean national holidays. Holidays are typically given as one (1) week in summer and one (1) week in winter. The Institute will endeavor to give as much advance notice as possible of the actual dates of holidays. |
Pretty standard here. Might want it specified that it will be one calendar week (ie. Monday-Friday) with weekends included. But that's not a huge deal.
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6. Teaching
The Teacher will accept the lawful instructions of the academic director of the Institute, and will carry out all teaching duties to the best of his/her ability. |
The lack of specifics here may be the best thing or the worst thing about the contract depending on what they expect. Definitely get this cleared up with more specifics if you are worried.
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The two parties have read, understood, and agreed to the above stated terms and conditions on the date signed below.
DATE:__________________ Teacher��s signature: _______________________________________
DATE:__________________ Academic Director��s signature: _____________________________________ |
blah blah blah...
No standout problems except for the lack of details. But that could just mean that the school is laid back and pretty open to discussion.
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Freezer Burn

Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:19 am Post subject: |
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It looks ok, not a lot of info on there though. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Seems like a standard contract. No big problems with it.
What you need to do instead of posting it on a discussion board is to call the school yourself, yes yourself, and talk to other westerners who teach there.
This is the only way you will really know about the school. Posting your contract on here might get you some feedback but you really have to ask yourself how useful that feedback is.
Also, I wonder why would you ask if Busan was worth teaching in??
Strange way to word the question. Worth it how? As opposed to what? |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005 Location: Boo-sahn
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:48 am Post subject: |
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As others have mentioned, the new contract looks quite good. It's a hell of a lot better than that last one. The schedule is excellent even if you're teaching kids. You should really be able to enjoy your first year here with a schedule like that. Pay's good...a bit better than std in Boo-sahn. No Nazi-control clauses. You might want to ask about health insurance. That, and no mention of taxes or pension, seems to be one of the noticeable absences. When it comes to evaluations and training, be careful what you wish for as you just might get it. Some places evaluate you up, down, left, right, center, coming, going, and whatever other way they can think of. Most places like that can manipulate those evaluations to use against you if they so wish. Yes, it is nice to get some feedback; however, if your boss and students aren't complaining too much, then you must be doing things at least half-right. You won't be working in a call centre and be subjected to "professional training and development" which is actually, more times than not, a load of hogwash. Think of this as good. You will get experience through exposure, failures, and successes. You will like teaching and continue to do so, or you will realize it's just not for you. Anyway, don't sweat those things.
Boo-sahn's pretty good. Your school is near one of the beaches and maybe your apartment will be, too. You may see this as a good thing if you're into beaches and raw fish. If you like skating(ice), the Guek-dong Ice Rink is also very near there. If you're more into the "foreigner" scene of drinking and dancing or whatever, the Kyung-sung/Bu-kyung University area is only (*edit*)three stops away from Gwahng-ahn-li. You're also not very far from the downtown area(s) that include(s) Suh-myuhn(shopping, restaurants, movie theatres), Nampo(PIFF site, restaurants, fish/foreign goods markets), and Joong-ahng(Russian district, immigration, ferry terminal). It's a little less busy and polluted than Seoul, and you can find most things you need here if you're willing to put in a bit of an effort to explore.
Good points by Homer.
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Some nicely informative responses here.
Before you guys spend much time typing though, do know the OP isnt real.
--Moe |
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Always Curious
Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Location: In the corner
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the detailed advice above... really appreciate the advice.
Homer wrote: |
Also, I wonder why would you ask if Busan was worth teaching in??
Strange way to word the question. Worth it how? As opposed to what? |
I was thinking more along the lines of Seoul appearing to be where it's "at" for Korea, and would I be wasting my time in a smaller place whilst living in the country?
I mean, I wouldn't recommend anyone coming to the UK to live in Birmingham ahead of London for example, so I was wondering, if I was going to be living outside Seoul, would it be worth my while actually coming? |
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sheba
Joined: 16 May 2005 Location: Here there and everywhere!
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Seoul is huge, but Busan still has a population of almost 4 million... not exactly small! |
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neandergirl

Joined: 23 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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I liked Birmingham. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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neandergirl wrote: |
I liked Birmingham. |
Must be that Brummie accent my dear.
"Say, barman, this place must be the ar$ehole of the world."
"Yessir, just passing through, are you?" |
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Always Curious
Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Location: In the corner
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: |
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So about this contract, yea or nea??? |
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zappadelta

Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:58 am Post subject: |
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About the contract, there's a hell of a lot of stuff missing. But, what's there sounds prettty good. I would try to contact a foreigner there or two for more info. |
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