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Are you from Oregon?
I live in or have lived in Oregon
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 47%  [ 25 ]
I plan to live in Oregon in the future
7%
 7%  [ 4 ]
Never have lived there
33%
 33%  [ 18 ]
What's an Oregon, I am wondering....
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 11%  [ 6 ]
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Jensen



Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Location: hippie hell

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I would live on the Oregon Coast year-round. Too much rain. I take the kids to Newport a couple of times a year, stay in a yurt at the state park and Beverly Beach and spend half a day at the aquarium. Eat some grease at Mo's. That's about all the fun I can stand.

I've lived in Oregon a few times. My place is in WA, across from Hood River ( which is currently booming and getting super expensive). Portland does pretty well for being such a small city, I love Powells Books and PSU and the little Korean markets and Uwajimaya but it's nice to be back in the woods by bedtime.

I thought this (hicksville PNW) was a pretty neat area to raise kids in but I'm having second thoughts now...my daughter is starting high school next year, which is how old I was when my folks moved here. It's a strange experience, bunch of her friends are the kids of people I went to school with...lot of them I didn't care for and their kids seem kind of the same. This area isn't as inbred as...Maupin...but there's plenty of meth and stupidity and small town BS...
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shortskirt_longjacket



Joined: 06 Jun 2004
Location: fitz and ernie are my raison d'etre

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in Oregon from 1992 to 2004. I went to middle school, high school, and college there.

Oregon's pretty cool except for a few things:
1) you can't pump your own gas there because some jerk blew up a gas station in Eastern Oregon several years ago because he was smoking a cigarette while filling up. So the good folks in the Oregon State Legislature thought that the best way to prevent any future happenings of that would be to make it so EVERY PERSON IN OREGON HEREAFTER WOULD NEVER EVER PUMP THEIR OWN GAS BECAUSE NO ONE IN OREGON COULD EVER BE SMART ENOUGH NOT TO...oh crap, sorry, the caps lock got stuck. Anyway, it sucks.
2) There's no sales tax, which seems pretty cool, except when you want to, you know, fund your schools or something. Also, high property taxes.
3) Recently there's been a movement to totally outlaw over-the-counter pseudophedrine because Oregon is like the methamphetamine capital of the west coast or something. Seriously, they're making it so you can't get Sudafed without a prescription. Or Thera-flu (which the lady who's lobbying for this law to be passed claims makes the best, "fluffiest" meth that gives you the best high EVER).
4) They hate Californians. Which is just plain bad business.
5) You can't smoke in bars in a lot of the major (major for Oregon) cities (wait...I don't smoke anymore so that should be in the "plus" column [a column which I'm too lazy to actually do]).

Other than that, Oregon's pretty great. I went to U of O and there were a lot of crazy, fun, liberal people there.

I totally disagree with the statement that Oregon is the new Canada. As much as I think some of the things in Oregon are stupid, I'd never liken it to Canada.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oregon is bad

Stop if if you can

Here it comes, here it comes

Now it's after you!

Flee to someplace new.

Run away... Run away...

From the penthouse to the prison
To the humble piedterre
Are they taking up the cry
In the brothel
In the castle
On the crowded boulevard
Do they sing the dreadful words


Oregon is bad

Stop it if you can

Here it comes

Here it comes



Oregon is bad

Stop it if you can

Run away

Run away

--John Linnell
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shortskirt_longjacket wrote:

2) There's no sales tax, which seems pretty cool, except when you want to, you know, fund your schools or something. Also, high property taxes.
3) Recently there's been a movement to totally outlaw over-the-counter pseudophedrine because Oregon is like the methamphetamine capital of the west coast or something. Seriously, they're making it so you can't get Sudafed without a prescription. Or Thera-flu (which the lady who's lobbying for this law to be passed claims makes the best, "fluffiest" meth that gives you the best high EVER).
4) They hate Californians. Which is just plain bad business.
5) You can't smoke in bars in a lot of the major (major for Oregon) cities (wait...I don't smoke anymore so that should be in the "plus" column [a column which I'm too lazy to actually do]).


2) One exception to the rule: Ashland has a sales tax.
3) This isn't unique to Oregon. Lots of states are following this route. Here in CA, you have to get a clerk to give you sudafed.
5) CA bans smoking in every bar and restaurant. NYC does as well. OR is hardly alone in this area.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And also the METH epidemic.. thats all across the United States.. (the valley of California is the worst).. but many, many states are outlawing the pharmaceutical drugs that are used to make Meth. National epidemic.

Here in Las Vegas, I went to a supermarket, and the entire pharmeceutical aisle was locked up.. you had to get an attendent to get into that aisle - thats because of the Meth epidemic - too many people just stealing that stuff off the shelves.

Regarding the no-smoking in bars of Oregon. Really? Even more incentive to live in Oregon! I loved living in California and being able to go out and NOT have that smoking hacking second-hand cough the next morning from smokers. Plus, most (guys) in particular in California found it an ideal way to meet women - wait until they step outside for their cigarette, and coincide your trip with them. (It also made us non-smokers like me consider at the time picking up the habit - at least in a bar).

The non-smoking bars is a very progressive measure.. I guess CA is most progressive (as always), followed by NYC.. and then Oregon! Not bad. Any other states anyone knows of that has followed that measure?

I also liked the no pumping your own gas policy. Prices seemed the same as Washington State.
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chi-chi



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mods you may delete

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skookum



Joined: 11 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shortskirt_longjacket wrote:
Oregon's pretty cool except for a few things:
1) you can't pump your own gas there because some jerk blew up a gas station in Eastern Oregon several years ago because he was smoking a cigarette while filling up. So the good folks in the Oregon State Legislature thought that the best way to prevent any future happenings of that would be to make it so EVERY PERSON IN OREGON HEREAFTER WOULD NEVER EVER PUMP THEIR OWN GAS BECAUSE NO ONE IN OREGON COULD EVER BE SMART ENOUGH NOT TO...oh crap, sorry, the caps lock got stuck. Anyway, it sucks.


The ban on pumping your own gas has been in place just about forever - and it isn't the "gubmint" imposing it's will on the people - a few years ago an initiative sponsored by the oil companies was on the ballot - "Legalize Pump-your-own?" The initiative was roundly defeated. The voters didn't see pumpyerown as dangerous, it's more that they want the service, and the extra jobs that come with it, to be available as a matter of course. And the voters didn't believe that pumpyerown would result in lower gas prices, rather than increased profits for the oil companies.

shortskirt_longjacket wrote:
2) There's no sales tax, which seems pretty cool, except when you want to, you know, fund your schools or something. Also, high property taxes.


Wouldn't say property taxes are all that high since a ballot measure to limit them was put in effect 12 or 15 years ago. They mighta been lower yet if the measure hadn't been sponsored by people who directed the majority of the resulting tax reduction to large corporations. School funding would be less of a problem if, as a result of that and other tax law changes, the percentage of the state's total tax intake paid by corporations has gone from 70% of the total down to 40% of the total in the past 30 years.

Someone said Ashland has a sales tax. What they have is a tax on accomodation and a tax on restaurant meals. There is no city sales tax on stuff you'd buy at the store....

shortskirt_longjacket wrote:
4) They hate Californians. Which is just plain bad business.


Many Oregonians ARE Californians - or at least ex-Californians. And I don't know that anyone HATES Californians - there's some jokes around with CA as the butt but I haven't met anyone who goes around turning up their noses at CA immigrants on an individual basis. The population transfer from there has affected Oregon in a number of ways - the state is a lot more lively and diverse than it used to be, on the other hand the influx has driven up property values (good for owners and developers, bad for local buyers who are competing with Californians who have sold their $600,000 house in Los Angeles and can afford a nicer one in Oregon at half the price.) But when it all shakes down and their moving van is unloaded and they have settled in, they are accepted there just like the North Dakotans were during the dust bowl and the folks from Mississippi and Oklahoma and Texas were after World War II.
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I had a hard time finding a job in PDX. The economy seemed a bit depressed when I was there in 1997, but my wallet was pretty depressed, too, so maybe it was just me... God, I LOVED living in bridgetown... Cool city, cool people. I TOTALLY miss McMennamin's pubs... Hefeweitzen is yummy....
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just took a trip up to Oregon. Drove up through Nevada and then flew back to Vegas from Portland.

First we entered into Lakeview - nothing special - cowboy eastern country. A book boasted about the fact they didn't have any 'development' by the means of strip malls or whatever else. That was true.

Klamath Falls - they have a little bit of everything there. Looked interesting enough. Even the little downtown was alright - and a large hill overlooking the smallish city. Interesting enough. This did have a lot of development - every chain you can imagine is there.

Medford - looked like one big suburb. Flatter, bigger, less interesting version of Klamath Falls about 90 miles away.

Grants Pass - with a nice sign saying 'its the climate'. I liked that city.. had lunch.. picked up real estate mags out of curiousity - half a million dollars for housing throughout southern oregon? what the hell is wrong with that picture!!??!!

Crescent City, CA - drove through the Redwoods to get there.. looked like a surfing community and more typical of California.. and a very nice little place.

Brookings, OR - the Banana Belt. Looked like a retirement/fishing community.. small.. great climate - everyone boasts about that. Not much happening there though.

Coos Bay - Oregon's 'Bay Area'. Looked interesting enough - very industrial, but had a little bit of everything.. the hills around the bay were san francisco-esque in some ways.

Florence, OR - Very nice community. Lots of sand dunes everywhere.. made an effort to run up to the top of one to look down the other side - didn't work - it was too big, and the top just revealed one hell of a lot more sand.

Corvallis, OR - college town - evident everywhere. Finally starting seeing a lot more asian restaurants around here.

Salem, OR - definetely an under-rated place. Not bad. A family place. You wouldn't go there to party or anything like that.

Portland, OR - still the same! Saw lots of Kerry stickers everywhere.. and even a Kucinich bumpersticker. Air America (the liberal news network) played on the radio stations. Very political.. Its still the same. Bookstores everywhere, etc.

Anyhow, nice to drive around in the state of Oregon again. Oh, and saw a really old friend of mine and his Korean wife and their 6-month-old daughter. A nice trip.
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Just took a trip up to Oregon. Drove up through Nevada and then flew back to Vegas from Portland.

First we entered into Lakeview - nothing special - cowboy eastern country. A book boasted about the fact they didn't have any 'development' by the means of strip malls or whatever else. That was true.

Klamath Falls - they have a little bit of everything there. Looked interesting enough. Even the little downtown was alright - and a large hill overlooking the smallish city. Interesting enough. This did have a lot of development - every chain you can imagine is there.

Medford - looked like one big suburb. Flatter, bigger, less interesting version of Klamath Falls about 90 miles away.

Grants Pass - with a nice sign saying 'its the climate'. I liked that city.. had lunch.. picked up real estate mags out of curiousity - half a million dollars for housing throughout southern oregon? what the hell is wrong with that picture!!??!!

Crescent City, CA - drove through the Redwoods to get there.. looked like a surfing community and more typical of California.. and a very nice little place.

Brookings, OR - the Banana Belt. Looked like a retirement/fishing community.. small.. great climate - everyone boasts about that. Not much happening there though.

Coos Bay - Oregon's 'Bay Area'. Looked interesting enough - very industrial, but had a little bit of everything.. the hills around the bay were san francisco-esque in some ways.

Florence, OR - Very nice community. Lots of sand dunes everywhere.. made an effort to run up to the top of one to look down the other side - didn't work - it was too big, and the top just revealed one hell of a lot more sand.

Corvallis, OR - college town - evident everywhere. Finally starting seeing a lot more asian restaurants around here.

Salem, OR - definetely an under-rated place. Not bad. A family place. You wouldn't go there to party or anything like that.

Portland, OR - still the same! Saw lots of Kerry stickers everywhere.. and even a Kucinich bumpersticker. Air America (the liberal news network) played on the radio stations. Very political.. Its still the same. Bookstores everywhere, etc.

Anyhow, nice to drive around in the state of Oregon again. Oh, and saw a really old friend of mine and his Korean wife and their 6-month-old daughter. A nice trip.


But were they smoking or buying toast?
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:


Grants Pass - with a nice sign saying 'its the climate'. I liked that city.. had lunch.. picked up real estate mags out of curiousity - half a million dollars for housing throughout southern oregon? what the hell is wrong with that picture!!??!!


It's those damn Californians Wink.
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Jensen



Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Location: hippie hell

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buddy bradley wrote:
... toast...


New one on me, but if crusty bread gets you toasted there are going to Oregonians waiting in lines for the day-old...
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Just took a trip up to Oregon. Drove up through Nevada and then flew back to Vegas from Portland.

Medford - looked like one big suburb. Flatter, bigger, less interesting version of Klamath Falls about 90 miles away.

Grants Pass - with a nice sign saying 'its the climate'. I liked that city.. had lunch.. picked up real estate mags out of curiousity - half a million dollars for housing throughout southern oregon? what the hell is wrong with that picture!!??!!

Portland, OR - still the same! Saw lots of Kerry stickers everywhere.. and even a Kucinich bumpersticker. Air America (the liberal news network) played on the radio stations. Very political.. Its still the same. Bookstores everywhere, etc.


I actually grew up in Medford and Grants Pass. Last December I visited Medford, it is growing pretty fast now a days. My mom lives there and neither of us can believe how much it's grown since we lived there in the early 80's.

This trip, I didn't get a chance to goto Grants Pass, but got a glimps on the way up to Portland. It seems like it has grown as well. After I graduated from high school there, they rebuilt the entire school so none of it is the familiar school I went to.

I miss Portland, it's a great place to live. For the past eleven years I've lived there. When I was there I spent some time at Powell's Bookstore and brought back plenty of books with me.
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Jensen



Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Location: hippie hell

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:
...Medford...


I lived outside Medford (Sam's Valley), went to school there until the third grade (early '70s). My old school was this funky old wooden building with a big bell tower. The recess lady would pick somebody and they could go into this closet in the library and pull on the rope (hang on it because it was so heavy) that rang the bell...it was dark and creepy and birdshit would fall down off the bell. We had two kinds of teachers...ancient old biddies that were mean and organized, and hippies that were nice but couldn't keep their cool dealing with kids. I remember one guy hollering and waving a chair over his head because he was trying to demonstrate principles of probability (to second-graders) and somebody walked on a ping-pong ball. He ended up selling floor-coverings in town.

Can't believe that people continue to keep moving into that area, seemed like it was full and overflowing when I took a trip back there in the eighties...
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skookum



Joined: 11 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Just took a trip up to Oregon. Drove up through Nevada and then flew back to Vegas from Portland.
....................

Medford - looked like one big suburb. Flatter, bigger, less interesting version of Klamath Falls about 90 miles away.


I always thought of Medford as kind of a Midwestern cowtown. And refered to the Ashland-Talent-Phoenix-Medford-Central Point-White City-Eagle Point area as the Minimegalopolis. But Ashland and Jacksonville are both quite different from the rest of the Minimeg,etc....-- in fact, each of the component villages have their own personality....

Tiger Beer wrote:
Grants Pass - with a nice sign saying 'its the climate'. I liked that city.. had lunch.. picked up real estate mags out of curiousity - half a million dollars for housing throughout southern oregon? what the hell is wrong with that picture!!??!!


Real estate prices aren't actually that bad (unless they've tripled in the last few months). Yer grandmaw''s fixer-up isn't advertised in these things - just the 4000 sq. feet ones designed for retired transplanted Californian couples. If I recall the average price for housing in Jackson County (Medford area) was $180,000. It can't be any higher in Josephine County (Grants Pass area)..... Of course Ashland has higher prices than the rest of southern Oregon.

Tiger Beer wrote:
Corvallis, OR - college town - evident everywhere. Finally starting seeing a lot more asian restaurants around here.


You didn't get to Eugene I guess - they have eight Korean restaurants there. But, doggone-it - we went thru there on a Sunday last year and EVERY ONE of them was closed. (Oh, well - now we can get all the Korean food we want!)

Tiger Beer wrote:
Salem, OR - definetely an under-rated place. Not bad. A family place. You wouldn't go there to party or anything like that.


Yup, Salem is an oddly staid locality. There's only a few traditional Mennonites in the area but they do seem to characterize the personality of the place. Nearby Woodburn is also a bit different - a large population of Old-Believer Russians (kind of like a mild-mannered version of the Doukhabors) live there

Tiger Beer wrote:
Anyhow, nice to drive around in the state of Oregon again. Oh, and saw a really old friend of mine and his Korean wife and their 6-month-old daughter. A nice trip.


Glad you enjoyed your travels.
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