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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: When do I have to leave? Reply with quote

I realize this will be a dumb question, but I need some help. When my recruiter bought my plane ticket, he set the return date for only a few months away and told me to just change it when I found out my exact leave date. So how do I determine my leave date? Is it the exact date that's on my visa as the visa expiration date, or is that just the last day you are allowed to work within the country? Example: my visa expires on March 21, 2006, so is that the day I should set for my return ticket?

Thanks in advance,
Qinella
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at your ARC.

You have to leave the country two weeks after the end date on your ARC. In your case, you have from March 21 to April 4th to leave the country.

Simple as that.


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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ARC shows the last date you can work in country on that visa. the date I think you;re looking for is the one that's exactly a year after your first day of work. If there's extra time on the visa after that date buy a ticket for a day or two after, so you'll have time to pack, and make sure you get your money.
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astroboyfan



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JacktheCat wrote:
Look at your ARC.

You have to leave the country two weeks after the end date on your ARC. In your case, you have from March 21 to April 4th to leave the country.

Simple as that.


Actually, it really isnt that simple if you are planning on returning and working in Korea.

The date on your ARC card is the date in which you have to leave the country. Last year I was overstaying by 1 day. My director called immigration and they said I needed to get an extension, or I would have an "overstayed visa" on my file. I had to go to immigration with several documents including my plane ticket to get the extension.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Astroboyfan's pretty correct, I think. Some of the dates just don't always match up. Most of the places assume you are working until the end of the contract month in which your visa expires. Oftentimes immigration gives you an extra week or so, but they often f*^k it up and have your visa expire a week before your actual contract does. Or, it's your boss who f*^ks it up. I'm assuming, again, it's similar to a Cdn tax-grab. Anyway, talk to your director and find out what the last day is that they expect you to work. If that date is after the expiry date on your ARC, you will have to get an extension. Foolishness. Set you flight plans after you get that info.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, this is really confusing. I'll talk to my director and find out. Thanks everyone.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ARC date is the date you need to depart. If you stay beyond that, you're overstaying.
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting.

I was told on two seperate occasions by immi officals that you had two weeks from the end date on your ARC to leave the country.

The end date on your ARC being the last day you could work.

I guess nothing is ever simple about Korean immigration.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JacktheCat wrote:
Interesting.

I was told on two seperate occasions by immi officals that you had two weeks from the end date on your ARC to leave the country.

The end date on your ARC being the last day you could work.

I guess nothing is ever simple about Korean immigration.


I believe you are right about the grace period. However, if Qinella's card says March 21st, and his place expects him to work until the end of the month, which isn't uncommon if he's at a regular hogwan, then he may be considered "illegal" if he's working after that date. Qinella, if you're expected to work until the end of whatever month your contract ends in and you card/visa expires before that, I would ask your boss to get an extension just to be safe and you should also get your boss to pay for it.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denverdeath wrote:
JacktheCat wrote:
Interesting.

I was told on two seperate occasions by immi officals that you had two weeks from the end date on your ARC to leave the country.

The end date on your ARC being the last day you could work.

I guess nothing is ever simple about Korean immigration.


I believe you are right about the grace period. However, if Qinella's card says March 21st, and his place expects him to work until the end of the month, which isn't uncommon if he's at a regular hogwan, then he may be considered "illegal" if he's working after that date. Qinella, if you're expected to work until the end of whatever month your contract ends in and you card/visa expires before that, I would ask your boss to get an extension just to be safe and you should also get your boss to pay for it.



I went ahead and asked my boss about it today and he said he didn't know either, but that he'd contact the recruiting agency. While we were talking, he asked me if I'm planning on returning to the school next year. I had to explain, prematurely for my tastes, that even though I like the hagwon, this city is outrageously boring and I won't be returning. He sorta looked like a loyal dog that you just kicked but still wants to love you. Other Koreans say he treats me like a son, so I felt bad having to tell him that.

Oh well... anyway, I guess I'll find out what he says. Thanks all for the assistance.
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astroboyfan



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, he is going to ask the recruiting agency.. most of them know less than the directors. They are by no means experts in immigration policy. I think the main thing you need to find out is when your director plans your last day to be "if you dont decide to re-sign" (be vague). If it is before that date, just make sure you leave before the date on your ARC card. If he expects you to stay till the end of March, you will definitely have to extend. I believe that your school will have to submit some papers as well, even if it is only a couple of weeks.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denverdeath wrote:
I believe you are right about the grace period.


No grace period. Two experiences, two different immigration offices, no grace period.

Not to mention that they're getting a lot tighter with this stuff right now.
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astroboyfan



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
denverdeath wrote:
I believe you are right about the grace period.


No grace period. Two experiences, two different immigration offices, no grace period.

Not to mention that they're getting a lot tighter with this stuff right now.


Agreed, I had to extend in April and I was only going to be 10hrs over the departure date.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens if you re-sign, you still have to hand in your old ARC at the airport? If you re-sign I guess your employer would buy you a round-trip ticket home and you can process your landing visa in your own country.
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astroboyfan



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
What happens if you re-sign, you still have to hand in your old ARC at the airport? If you re-sign I guess your employer would buy you a round-trip ticket home and you can process your landing visa in your own country.


As for as I know, resigning makes it easy. You do not have to go through the whole process. You just have to file a few papers while you are here in Korea and do not have to leave the country.
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