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Dave's ESL Fitness Challenge (2005)
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Freezer Burn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

72 kgs at the moment, I have the time here and the drive so I want to put on 5kgs, my problem is the protein as well, Im eating tuna twice a day as well as chicken most nights and egg white omelettes as well.

Where is the protein in this country?

I dont want to pay big bucks for powders so thats probably going to be my downfall, any advice on how to put on 5kgs in 10 months.
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a lame-ass question but I'll ask it anyway. How do you prepare and serve tuna? When I was a kid we would just mix it up with a ton of mayonnaise and put it on bread. But that can't be the healthiest or the only way. And it would get old fast, anyway...
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

open bag (the 170g bags by starkist *I think* are sold at Emart), grap chopsticks eat.
Conversly, if I must use a can: open can, drain fart inducing oil, rinse, eat
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate used to do the following

1 can of tuna
a bit of pasta
2 eggs
dolmio sauce

Cook pasta
Chuck in the rest, and stir till eggs scramble

Eat.

Looked gross, and I mean PROPER gross. But he swore by it, and it made him bulk up.


If you want a healthier option, mix it with 1.2 fat mayo and add sliced raw onion, makes it much more delicious imho
Then ruin that by sticknig it on white bread adding cheese and making a tuna melt, the single best way to eat tuna Very Happy
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PolyChronic Time Girl



Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: Korea Exited

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 59 kgs (for my height, I should be lower). I want to be back to my svelte 53 kg shape. Since I'm not working now, I can spend oodles of time at the gym. I just joined last week, so I'm guessing in order to drop weight I should focus more on cardio and spend about 3-4 days weight training? I actually have pretty lean arms and I like them that way, so I really don't want to build them up or bulk them up, so I do light resistance upper body training.
Also, I'm doing Pilates....I really like it...it really focuses on your "powerhouse" (abs). I heard pilates is good if you want to lengthen out your muscles after you weight train.
Anyone familiar with Pilates? What moves do you know? Anyone know where you can get real Pilates training in Korea? I only have a book.
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told last time I went to the gym by my trainer, you cant add muscle mass and loose fat at the same time.

Seemed odd, he had me doing cardio and then REALLY low intensity weights (150 reps on things)

Is that true? Since then I tend to ignore the weights, but i always thought more muscle = more metabolism = less fat but i dunno.....
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its true for pro bodybuilders, but for normies its not. In fact for the average person just starting going to the gym, its almost guaranteed that they will lose weight and gain muscle. 150 reps?!? Is this a Korean trainer (grrr...worst physiologists ever...everything they love wrenches something, or stresses a joint, or is unsafe or...) Anyway, keep your reps at the standart 8-12 reps with progressively increasing weight. 150 reps will just burn out a joint.

BTW: Check out my fitness club at www.blueyoyo.com there are things there for everyone, and if its not there tell me and I'll get it.
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inthewild



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current Condition and rambling.
I'm 190cm 95kg... played sports all the time when I was younger but have always had a spare tire. I'm in my twenties so I assume I can lose it, but I think I'll just have to work harder to get down to 90kg. My frame is pretty big and you can't tell I hide alot of weight in my midsection.

Teaching and sitting around on the computer for a few hours each day aren't conducive to losing weight... eating well is a problem too.

I've lost my 5kg since I came here, but I think it was half muscle or more. I've started doing pilates, jump rope and a good knee strengthening workout from http://www.skiingmag.com/skiing/be_strong/article/0,12910,927259,00.html. But I think my dumbass gave myself a stress fracture from jumping rope too much, too early.

I used to lift often but had a hard time getting results... and I haven't joined a gym here yet. I just got a bike so I think I'll focus more on cardio and core conditioning than trying to get big like I was back home.

Goal
90kg. That means eating right and less computer time, more bike time.
I want to at least see the outline of a SOMETHING pack on my stomach. Haha.
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I dont want to pay big bucks for powders so thats probably going to be my downfall, any advice on how to put on 5kgs in 10 months.


Well, protein powder is not necessarily a lot more expensive than getting your protein from food.

Here's the math...

One 250 gram can of tuna (depending on what kind you get) has approx. 65 grams of protein, and where I buy them, they cost about 1,300 won. That's 20 won/gram. That is the cheapest and most convenient food protein I know of in Korea.

I've seen protein powder go for 36,000 won for 6 pounds. Of that, about 1874 grams is protein, the rest is carbs and whatever. Anyway, that comes to about 19 won/gram of protein. This protein powder was some misc. brand at Costco.

I eat about one can of tuna a day, and that's about all I can handle, and I don't feel like bankrupting myself buying other kinds of meat, so I've been getting the protein powder for the last few months.

Anyway, I would say that you shouldn't get the idea that protein powder is so expensive. It's one of the better buys for protein here in the ROK (compared to food sources.)
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gmat



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Egg whites are a great source of protein. How expensive are 12 medium sized eggs in Seoul? (five or six egg whites is a good serving of protein, approx 25 grams)
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Freezer Burn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I eat like two cans of tuna a day, as far as proteing powder goes, I dont live in Seoul, I live outside of Busan so getting it is a problem.
Its a good thing I like tuna hey Laughing

Egg white omeletts are great, and tofu is available as well, but its awful.
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:00 am    Post subject: Cooking tofu Reply with quote

So I trying cooking some tofu with my random meat thing they sell in Carrefour. It was a bit of a disaster. The tofu had the texture of scrambled eggs and tasted rank. Whats the simplest way to prep it for stir fry? And are there different types of tofu?
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