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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| you've really had boys look up your skirt? man, i'm glad i teach at an elementary school, i'd take their phones away and call canada with them. |
yup. Gotta watch their feet as they like to put mirrors on their shoes always walk against the wall when going up/down stairs.
A few years ago at a neighbouring school the boys took a photo with a handphones the japanese teacher and posted it on the internet. It caused no end of problems and she lost a fiance over it. The prinicpal banned the phones though the moms were not happy.
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I was told last week "You're wearing running shoes! Don't you know
Koreans don't wear those indoors?"
So, is that true, or is my co-teacher just a bit grumpy these days? |
nope you are supposed to wear 'indoor shoes'. At the moment I'm wearing some sandles with no back strapys. I may buy some berks even though they look fugly and I feel like a hippy in them they are comfortable as I teach on concrete. |
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MissCanada
Joined: 26 Jul 2004
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| I would suggest you overdress professionally to begin with and go from there. Regardless of how casually others around you dress, it will set the right tone with your boss and coworkers. Keep in mind that your co-workers will never have met you before and will be judging you mostly based on your appearance for the first little while. |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| Keep in mind that your co-workers will never have met you before and will be judging you mostly based on your appearance for the first little while. |
This is true. And many of them don't speak English or are too scared to talk to you so this will be the only impression that they have of you, ever. |
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sheba
Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!
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And T-shirts & jeans? I thought even children went to school better dressed than that, no?
2. Wearing slippers on the job. I suppose if one's literally on their feet all day, then it might be comfortable. But were I to live to be 100, I'll still never get with the slipper-wearing-office-worker thang. The only time I've done it was when I worked in big buildings and they had a shoeshine service.... But I digress... Does anyone really get into this slippers-on-the-job thing?
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| Take your cues from the korean teachers but remember that you must always be better dressed than them to get the same respect. |
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I am happy that our dress code is more relaxed. We still have to be groomed, and you can still look good in jeans and t-shirt. As for the slippers, it is custom. Its like having to take off your shoes when you go into a house, except we have to wear SOMETHING on our feet inside. We dont literally wear slippers, but thats what the Korean teachers call indoor-only shoes. They can be leather, they can have chunky heels, they can have straps or plastic flowers, as long as they NEVER get worn outside.
I always dress more formally than my co-workers, like a knee length skirt with a nice top as oppsed to a t-shirt and jeans... well it's my perception anyway. (Maybe I look bad by korean standards?)
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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I wouldn't reccommend being way over-dressed compared to your Korean co-workers - a little at the start might do, but I wouldn't want to be seen trying to show them up.
And crazylemongirl, I'm not an advocate of hitting kids, but if I were a woman being sexually harrassed by teens I'd make an exception! |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
I wouldn't reccommend being way over-dressed compared to your Korean co-workers - a little at the start might do, but I wouldn't want to be seen trying to show them up.
And crazylemongirl, I'm not an advocate of hitting kids, but if I were a woman being sexually harrassed by teens I'd make an exception! |
nope always best to be over dressed in comparison to your co-workers. My friend uses the analogy that we're like black people in the 60s, gotta be better dressed to get the same level of respect. |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
I wouldn't reccommend being way over-dressed compared to your Korean co-workers - a little at the start might do, but I wouldn't want to be seen trying to show them up.
And crazylemongirl, I'm not an advocate of hitting kids, but if I were a woman being sexually harrassed by teens I'd make an exception! |
nope always best to be over dressed in comparison to your co-workers. My friend uses the analogy that we're like black people in the 60s, gotta be better dressed to get the same level of respect. |
Ahem to that sister. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| I wear a suit most days but that is because my students usually wear the same. I agree with a post above stating that you should always dress equal to, or above your students. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:22 am Post subject: |
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(Note: The following post doesn't have a thing to do with what teachers, male or female, should wear. Just me going off on a tangent about slippers, really. I advise skipping this one unless you're very bored.)
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| I am happy that our dress code is more relaxed. We still have to be groomed, and you can still look good in jeans and t-shirt. |
Okay, but I was asking about teachers in the West. Are teachers in the West going to work wearing blue jeans and T-shirts nowadays? If so, what age of students would they be teaching?
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| As for the slippers, it is custom. Its like having to take off your shoes when you go into a house, except we have to wear SOMETHING on our feet inside. We dont literally wear slippers, but thats what the Korean teachers call indoor-only shoes. |
Well, we're probably talking about different things then. Because in my post I was referring precisely to slippers, not indoor-only shoes. Household slippers. Couldn't call them anything but "slippers". Pretty much indistinguishable from the ones I wear when I'm flopping about in my own house. (Except that while I steer well clear of delicate, feminine colours when I buy slippers, a few of my Korean colleagues didn't seem to have that hang-up. Perhaps their wives or secretaries picked them out.) Anyway, the stockinged feet & toes poking out gave them a vaguely slacker/sleepy-headed appearance that, to ethnocentric & culturally arrogant little me, makes slippers so incongruous in a business-office setting. For teachers & nurses and others who spend hours & hours literally on their feet, they don't look in the least bit strange.
Where I worked, however, you'd have these determined-looking corporate warriors, these junior captains of industry, all barking orders, lining up meetings, arranging power lunches in their power ties... while shuffling along the corridors of power in footwear that you could almost imagine Bugs Bunny ears stitched onto. And when I say "shuffled", I mean exactly that. Particularly the girls. You'd hear this constant "scrape, scrape, scrape" sound as everyone sort of dragged their feet along the floor. From office to office, up the stairs, down the elevator, off to the bathroom, over to the vending machine. *scrape, shuffle, scrape, shuffle, scrape, scrape, scrape* It actually seemed as though they were intentionally not picking up their feet as they walked.
Now, from my culturally bigoted perspective, this rather tended to create an impression (or intensify an existing impression) that these people were in some sense playing at being "Director" or "Director-General" or "Assistant Director", or whatever their title. With the slippers on the job, the obligatory late hours, the snoozing at their desks during the day, the visits to the sauna or the barber shop in the middle of work hours -- all of this served to blur the distinction of company time & personal time, and in the process the look & feel of professionalism as we would recognise it in a Western office, it suffered. But that doesn't matter because this is Korea, right? Right. |
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Picture Perfect
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:33 am Post subject: Something like these might keep the boys attention.......... |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Yes, and while all three ladies certainly have their merits, I'm going to go ahead and cast my vote for the first one, or maybe the second woman in the first dress...Yeah, that's it.
What was the topic of this thread, by the way? I forgot... |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Yes, and while all three ladies certainly have their merits, I'm going to go ahead and cast my vote for the first one, or maybe the second woman in the first dress...Yeah, that's it.
What was the topic of this thread, by the way? I forgot... |
Sorry, Gopher, but there are no returns, no exchanges. You get the first and I've already taken the second. I agree about the outfit, though.
And the thread topic was... give me a second here.... |
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