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Dog-meat lovers meet crusaders for canines
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: Dog-meat lovers meet crusaders for canines Reply with quote

Facing the hottest time of the year, many Koreans traditionally head for restaurants that serve dog meat soup in the belief such a meal bolsters stamina in a debilitating summer humidity and heat.

But to confront those looking for dog meat, animal rights activists and dog lovers took to the streets yesterday around Seoul to protest against the culinary practice.

Members of eight local animal welfare civic groups gathered at the Government Complex building in Gwangwhamun, central Seoul, and appelaed to public officials to stop eating dog meat.

Waving placards and wearing shirts with slogans such as "Dogs are friends, not food", the demonstrators also staged events to raise awareness. Some protesters climbed into large cages wearing papaer dog masks, while others showed photos of dogs on their way to the slaughterhouse and groomed dogs as household pets.

"With the trend toward protecting animals on the rise, it is absurd that the government is in fact boosting the dog-eating culture", said Cho Hee-kyung, head of a group supporting animals freedom.

JoongAng Ilbo

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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eating of any meat has a degree of savagery. if people say they are against dog eating they should be against pork, beef, mutton, fish...

i doubt that any of my korean friends would give up their precious samgyeop-barf-sal. a pig's sentience/intelligence/awareness is about equal to a dog's.

so i sure hope these demonstrators are at least eschewing the less cute forms of meat that don't run up to you and lick your hand.

as far as i can see eating dog is about as logical as eating any other form of meat. unless of course you beat the shit out of it while it's still alive, like i hear it's done here in korea. anyone who does that deserves to get the shit beat out of them, cultural relativism tossed to the four winds.
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I f-ing well detest hippies.
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ninjamonkey



Joined: 17 Jun 2005
Location: where the streets have no name

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i really don't see the problem with eating dog meat, it is no more repulsive then eating any other type of meat. it is natural for humans to consume meat as we are omnivores. if one were inclined to look, one can come up with a reason not to be eating those noble, non-violent plants too. WHAT HAS THAT POOR HEAD OF LETTUCE DONE TO YOU YOU BASTARDS!

that being said, i don't have a problem with people choosing to be anti dog meat, vegetarians or even vegans. you are free to choose as you please, you are free to try to rationally convince others, just don't try to push your own views on other people (i would place this protest somewhere in between convincing and pushing..).

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DRAMA OVERKILL



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never eat dog meat...

First, because I personally find it to be more savage and disgusting than eating other meats (maybe it's not, but I can't help but feeling that way)...

Second, because the manner in which these animals in Korea are "put down" is beyond savage, it's just simply wrong (you know what I'm talkin' about - being slowly beaten to death because it apparently enhances the quality of the meat... Knowing this, how could anyone bring themselves to eat it???

Not sure, but didn't Korean people start consuming dog meat during the time of the Korean War because of a food shortage? Well, times aren't so bad anymore, are they? So, why eat it?

Oh, that's right, I know... Because it's good for stamina - sure.... Just like every other Korean food or product will do wonders for you...
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rapier



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again..i've eaten dog meat. tasty. Apart from the cruelty involved in the preparation, I have no objections to anyone else doing so. They're domestic animals- westerners eat cows and sheep after all, half stunning a cow by execution is not entirely humane either.

There are far more important environmental and wildlife issues to be campaigning about than domestic animals. Plenty of wild species are going extinct- far more worrying than dogs.

We will always have dogs. But will we always have whales, tigers, rhinos etc etc ??
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which reminds me, Fukuoka, friday, anyone know a good whale meat restaurant?
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Dispatched



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the dogs actually beaten/ tortured before death or is it Anti Dog eating propogander designed to put people off it. Surely if it happens people would hear about it, can anyone put their hand up and say they've heard or seen such things happening?

I don't eat dog purely because of this and am truely curious as to whether it actually happens or not.
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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend saw it happen. He was invited on a hiking trip/ BBQ (big surprise- not told the honest truth, just a clean abstract). Brought a dog along, strung it up, and beat it with baseball bats. Dudes enjoyed it, too. Sick. Sick. Sick. Ijits and their "stamina" food. If these imbeciles cut down on the soju, maybe they'd have more stamina.

I know someone who was tricked into eating Poshintang. He had been in the hsopital for 2 weeks, and his neighbors came by with "Yuk GAE jang". They lied. He took it with a grain of salt because he believes they were well-intentioned, thinking that the swill would honestly make him feel better. Knowing he wouldn't eat it if they told him it was dog soup, they told him it was yuk kae jang. Personally, I would have had an absolute fit and told them they totally disregarded my value system and disrespected my culture if they did that to me. I would never deceive anyone like that. Absolutely despicable.

Once again, people. The main issue is over the conditions in which these animals are kept and how they are slaughtered. As long as Confucianism exists, this practice will probably never change.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shouldnt the title of this thread be renamed:

Crusaders for canines meet dog meat lovers Laughing
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



Joined: 04 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My democratic beliefs tell me to respect the beliefs and choices of the dog-eaters.

Would the dog-eaters respect my beliefs and choices in equal measure? Would they respect the beliefs and choices of others?
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny when a student says "Do you like dog food? Sometimes my father eat dog food for stamina"
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

periwinkle wrote:
As long as Confucianism exists, this practice will probably never change.

The poster forgot to provide evidence of any connection between the philosophy and practice of Confucianism and the consumption of kae gogki. Failing to do so is a crime against the intellect. Just thought I'd mention it ...

Not defending Confucius, by the way, just defending brain cells and the use of them.
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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humans have a higher ranking over animals according to Confucianism. Sorry, I thought I made an obvious statement, but I guess it was cryptic. I've seen people mistreating animals here, and no one gives a rat's behind. Animals are lowest on the totem pole. Actually, they don't even rank. My poor dead dog is proof of this.

What about brain cells and intellect? Are you insulting my intelligence, Bobster? I'll make sure I thoroughly defend my arguments next time. Aish.... Rolling Eyes
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red dog



Joined: 31 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And he just had to pick this thread to "defend the use of brain cells." Right. What a joke. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

A few Koreans have also mentioned to me that they felt Confucianism devalued animals and contributed to their oppression. But apparently a Confucian-Taoist named Attr. Ko Hung (284-363 AD) had something different to say: "Have a compassionate heart towards all creatures." (http://www.aapn.org/humane.html)

Anyway, as I've said before, I support the Korean protesters, as well as those who protest the exploitation of animals of any kind for "food" and other purposes, in Korea and everywhere else.

Edit: I just wanted to add that animals don't really rank anywhere on the "totem pole" in any country, and that I don't think any place is really free of this arrogant assumption of human superiority. And it's equally inexcusable everywhere.

More later, if I have time ...
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