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Humans in N.A. 40,000 years ago?
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:11 am    Post subject: Humans in N.A. 40,000 years ago? Reply with quote

The theory that humanity came a cross a land bridge from Asia to North america 10-15,000 years ago might be taking it on the chin....

Will a footprint rewrite the history books?
http://www.physorg.com/news4937.html

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2005-07-06-mexico-footprints_x.htm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/05/wfoot05.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/07/05/ixworld.html
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joe_doufu



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's other evidence, too, I read it in National Geographic.
Monkeys crossed the Atlantic from Africa millions of years ago, before humans even evolved (probably on a tree that fell into the water). Why couldn't early humans have done the same? Land bridge my ass.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But try not to teach anything other than literal creation, OK? Wink
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe_doufu wrote:
There's other evidence, too, I read it in National Geographic.
Monkeys crossed the Atlantic from Africa millions of years ago, before humans even evolved (probably on a tree that fell into the water). Why couldn't early humans have done the same? Land bridge my ass.


Yeah, but that still isn't a migration.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmmm...

4004 BC + 2005 AD = 6,009 years old. Seems both groups are way over-estimating.
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joe_doufu



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
joe_doufu wrote:
There's other evidence, too, I read it in National Geographic.
Monkeys crossed the Atlantic from Africa millions of years ago, before humans even evolved (probably on a tree that fell into the water). Why couldn't early humans have done the same? Land bridge my ass.


Yeah, but that still isn't a migration.


The monkeys migrated. South American monkeys are another evolutionary branch distinct from African monkeys and apes. It may have only taken a single mating pair to start it.

Humans (and pre-humans) have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Fire is more than half a million years old. It's hard to imagine that not once would they have stumbled upon America until just recently.
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whatthefunk



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look to the stars, my friends! It was the aliens!
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were people around back in the time they planted those alien ships in the ground. Heck, there had to be or why else would they plant them there for later use?

Didn't you guys see War of the Worlds?

Geesh.... idiots, the lot of you! Laughing
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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whatthefunk



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
There is simply no evidence to support a human presence in the Americas before this movement.


Uhhhh...did you even read the article?! It said that a footprint was found in Mexico that was dated to be about 40,000 years ago. Is that not evidence?
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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whatthefunk



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
I read the article. You need more than a footprint in Mexico to undermine the general pattern created by thousands of Clovis sites throughout the Americas.


Thousands of clovis sites do not mean that there was nothing before clovis sites.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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whatthefunk



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
whatthefunk wrote:
Gopher wrote:
I read the article. You need more than a footprint in Mexico to undermine the general pattern created by thousands of Clovis sites throughout the Americas.


Thousands of clovis sites do not mean that there was nothing before clovis sites.


Of course not, but to claim that there were, you'd need pretty strong evidence to support that.


And a 40,000 year old footprint is a pretty damn good way to start out, dont ya think?
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