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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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I can tell you all without a doubt, with absolutely 100% certainty, definitely, that I had my ADD-ON for my summer camp done with no transcripts. I have the stamp in my passport and the writing on my ARC. A SEALED DEGREE???!!!???. Jesus! What are they gonna come up with next?!? Granted, I'm talking about Boo-sahn here, not Suh-ool, but it might have already changed here too.        |
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blujeanguy
Joined: 30 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I had mine done in 15 mins over at Incheon. I have an E-2. Showed them all my documents (passport, arc, contract, permission letter, and camp's business number). They just asked me if it would interfere with my main school. The camp is taking place during my main school's summer vacation. 10 minutes later I got my stamp on the back of my arc. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| Got the stamp today over at Mokdong Imm. Didn't take very long. It's a bit of an interesting change in my status, though. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| You definately don't need a sealed transcript (or even your degree, at the time) for an Add-on of a camp. |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
| You definately don't need a sealed transcript (or even your degree, at the time) for an Add-on of a camp. |
I believe you're right about the degree too. I was asked to bring it to immigration by the uni, but I think the fella there handed it back to me. Sorry I didn't mention that in the other post. I also talked more with that guy who said he didn't require a visa for the camp. He informed me that because he's with EPIK or something and working in the same Goo/Ku/District that he wasn't required to get an add-on. The strange thing is that I'm working in the same district too. Why do I need one but he doesn't? Is the education department going to vouch for him if immi comes a callin'? Are they just trying to save 60 bucks? Anyone have info on this? |
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Ekuboko
Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Location: ex-Gyeonggi
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| He informed me that because he's with EPIK or something and working in the same Goo/Ku/District that he wasn't required to get an add-on. The strange thing is that I'm working in the same district too. Why do I need one but he doesn't? |
Maybe your visas state who you're working for differently?
I mean, EPIKers will have a visa that says they are employed by a certain province or metropolitan city (not a specific school)... what does your visa say? |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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It says the school's name. So, it is true that a particular school can send you to a bunch of different places if they wish(like I've seen in another post) if you're hired through EPIK? My recruiter told me that, technically, I was hired through the Ministry of Education but I had to fill out all of the EPIK forms and get my medical done before everything was hunky-dory. Also, can this guy work anywhere he wants in the region as long as the main school gives him permission or does he have no real "main" school?
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Yep, in fact the education office would vouch for the epik guy.
Assuming he's working the camp with his supervisor's knowledge & approval, an epik position by definition involves multiple workplaces & they dont need to be reported to immigration. Thats straight from the horse's mouth this week (my local immigration agent anyway). |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
Yep, in fact the education office would vouch for the epik guy.
Assuming he's working the camp with his supervisor's knowledge & approval, an epik position by definition involves multiple workplaces & they dont need to be reported to immigration. Thats straight from the horse's mouth this week (my local immigration agent anyway). |
So, what does he do if an immigration official talks to/stops him on the street? Just show him his passport and ARC and give the boss' number? Then he's fine as long as the boss says that s/he has allowed it? |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Anyway, thanks for the info. I guess I can see both advantages and disadvantages to this system for both the teachers and the schools, but it's good info to have. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, I don't buy it at all.. no way.
If you want to work anyplace other than the location listed on your E-2 card, you MUST get approval in writing from both your school, the location where you're going to work. Bring this stuff with your passport and fill out the required forms at immigration. Then get approval. |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
Sorry, I don't buy it at all.. no way.
If you want to work anyplace other than the location listed on your E-2 card, you MUST get approval in writing from both your school, the location where you're going to work. Bring this stuff with your passport and fill out the required forms at immigration. Then get approval. |
But if the EPIK people have "Buk-gu Educational District" stamped in their passport and on their card, what is the location? I have to take a look at the guy's passport. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:28 am Post subject: |
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I'd guess so. Or checking his ARC number with immigration would show the district of education as his employer, which would probably be enough to legitimize him.
I work in several schools & do occasional out-of-town workshops (all under official auspices). Immigration said thats fine & didnt ask for details. My ARC makes no reference to workplace or employer, just my home address.
(But this being Korea, I cant vouch for all immigration offices.) |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
I'd guess so. Or checking his ARC number with immigration would show the district of education as his employer, which would probably be enough to legitimize him.
I work in several schools & do occasional out-of-town workshops (all under official auspices). Immigration said thats fine & didnt ask for details. My ARC makes no reference to workplace or employer, just my home address.
(But this being Korea, I cant vouch for all immigration offices.) |
When you get busted by immigration, you'll learn that they carry little scanners to scan your card information and match it to current records.
I know. I got busted 2 years ago. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Seems a lot of you are giving up major chunks of your vacation to work at these camps. And that's despite what CrazyLemonGirl says is a thoroughly loathesome experience, a sentiment many seem to agree with. Plus the thankless trips to Immigration (in such lovely weather for running errands on the other side of the city, I know -- I've been out & about today), which CLG didn't even mention in her thread. Getting Korean government approval and doing it legally seems a snap, an infernal nuisance, or not even worth the pain, varying from poster to poster.
So I sit here, the Voice of Ignorance, reading these posts and wondering, Why? "For the money" is what I expect I'll hear. But if money were all-important, then why all the biatching? If money were all-important, why not teach every single day of your vacation? Then what I expect to hear is, "Obviously we need some days of vacation, but these camps are only a few weeks long and the money is good". Okay then, I'll ask again: "Why all the biatching?" What is compelling you to put yourselves through this?
Also, what activities do these summer camps offer the children?
Camping, pitching tents, hiking nature trails, and exploring the Great Outdoors are a given. But what about....
Swimming?
Canoeing?
Fishing?
Silky Driving?
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