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spidey112233
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:23 am Post subject: Singil Station - has anyone been there recently? |
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when u get off the subway there, ANOTHER set of glass safety door open up and then close again when the train leaves. like protection from "jumpers"
they are the ONLY station to have done this i have seen. dont know why, unless there are a lot of suicides or something in that area. its not THAT big of a station to warrant this, so i was wondering if anyone knew why?? was there an incident a while back there that i missed?? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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spidey112233
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:22 am Post subject: |
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but this one was here a long time, like last year!!! weird |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Here we have the suicide-proof doors, but no subway! |
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Holyjoe

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: Away for a cuppa
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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I've read that the new line 9 will have the safety doors installed at each and every subway stop, and they'd like to install them at every other station too, finances permitting.
There are some other pretty ambitious projects set to be carried out in the near future:
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Line 9 is planned to run 38 km from Gimpo and Gimpo Airport (Line 5) along the southern shore of the river Han-gang to Dangsan (Line 2), Yeouido (Line 5), Dongjak (Line 4) and Express Bus Terminal (Line 3 and 7) and terminate in Pangi-dong in the east. It will be a 3-track subway providing express service on separate tracks similar to New York. The first phase of construction began in April 2002. This will cover the 25.5-km-long section connecting Gimpo Airport with Panpo and is due to be completed in late 2007. Stations will have elevators, escalators and platform screen doors. (see map)
Tentative station names (phase 1 - 2005): 901 Gimpo - 902 Gimpo Airport (Transfer to line No.5 and Incheon Airport Express Railway)- 903 Bangwha 2 - 904 Bangwha 3 - 905 Magok Newtown - 906 Yangcheon Confucian Shrine - 907 Mapo High School - 908 Jeungsan - 909 Deungchon - 910 Yeomchang - 911 Yongwangsan - 912 Yanghwa - 913 Dangsan (Transfer to line 2) - 914 National Assembly - 915 Yeouido (line 5) - 916 Korea Broadcast System headquarters - 917 Noryangjin (line 1) - 918 Heuksuk - 919 Chungang University - 920 Dongjak (line 4) - 921 GuBanpo (Old Banpo)- 922 Shinbanpo (New Banpo) - 923 Express Bus terminal (line 3 and 7) - 924 Samho Garden - 925 Cheil Life Insurance Company Headquarters (Transfer to Bundang suburb express railroad)
(phase 2 - 2007): 926 - 927 Samleung (transfer to Bundang Subway) - 928 - 929 COEX Center - 930 Sports Complex (line 2) - 931 Samjeon - 932 - 933 Seokchon (line 8 ) - 934 Bang-i (line 5?) - 935 - 936 Olympic Park (line 5) - 937 (through-operation on express railroad)
Line 3 - 3km extension (2003 ~ 2009) - Suseo - Garak Market (Line No. 8 ) - Ogeum (Line No. 5)
Bundang Line: 6.6km from Seolleung to Wangshimni (2001~2008); in the south an extension from the temporary terminus Bojeong to Yongin is planned,
Line 7 will be connected to Incheon Subway Line 1 to relieve the traffic congestion in western Seoul and northern Incheon. 9 stations will be added by 2010 for the 9.8-kilometer extension, starting from Onsu Station of Line 7 and ending at Pupyong-gu Office Station of Inchon Subway Line 1.
The proposed Sin Bundang Line Rail Project is a 19.3km rail transit line running in a north-south direction linking the Gangnam area with Jeongja in the Bundang residential district. The proposed alignment passes through 6 stations, i.e. Gangnam, Yangjae, Poi, Cheonggye, Pangyo and Jeongja. It intersects with 2 existing lines at Gangnam and Yangjae. An existing Bundang Maintenance depot, owned by KNR and located approximately 1km south of Jeongja Station, is to be used for the SBL Project rolling stock maintenance. The SBL Line signal system shall be based on state-of-the-art communications-based train control (CBTC) technology, utilizing two-way digital inductive loop communications between intelligent trains, and wayside equipment, and a network of ATS/ATO computers designed for very high system reliability and availability. Construction starts in Mid-2005, for revenue start in Jan 2010. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:19 am Post subject: |
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I've always wondered why this station was picked to have suicide doors. Is there something about it that passengers find more depressing? |
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thekingofdisco

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:48 am Post subject: |
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In Japan people commit suicide at particular stations (where the train is going very fast). If you try it when it's not going at full pelt you might end up living (albeit with some serious problems). So perhaps trains going trough this station go faster then at other stops.... |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Wonder what transit system has the most jumpers? Montreal only had four metro lines, but it seemed that every week there was another jumper. Or at least every week one of my students used it as an excuse for coming late or missing my early morning class. |
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thekingofdisco

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:58 am Post subject: |
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Japan has got to be up there at the top (if not very close).
If I was a statistic machine, I'd look it up
..... but I'm not. |
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spidey112233
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:26 am Post subject: |
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thekingofdisco wrote: |
In Japan people commit suicide at particular stations (where the train is going very fast). If you try it when it's not going at full pelt you might end up living (albeit with some serious problems). So perhaps trains going trough this station go faster then at other stops.... |
well, if ur talking about going faster to Singil, NO. the trains go faster to there than any other place or on that line |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:55 am Post subject: |
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thekingofdisco wrote: |
Japan has got to be up there at the top (if not very close).
If I was a statistic machine, I'd look it up
..... but I'm not. |
Something I've always wondered after visiting Fukuoka a few years back is, why is there a button, which people waiting on the platform can push, to stop the train should someone leap in front of it? Wouldn't this, potentially, severely injure or even kill the train's passengers?
Sparkles*_* |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Also (and I apologize for the morbid question), what is the jumper hoping to achieve -- to be hit by the train while in mid-air, or to be crushed (ouch!) beneath it?
And does the underground in Korea have an electric "third rail"?
Sparkles*_* |
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The Bobster

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Singil Station is right next to Yeouido, the seat tof the nationbal govt, so that might be why they chose to do it here among the first ones - it's also a tranfer point for the National Railroad, so that puts it higher on the list than Yeouido Station itself.
I think the intent is not so much to discourage suicides as accidents. I just haven't noticed a whole lot of Korean choosing subway-jumping for this purpose. People here seem to saying it, but I haven't noticed it myself. |
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Holyjoe

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: Away for a cuppa
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:34 am Post subject: |
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The Bobster wrote: |
I think the intent is not so much to discourage suicides as accidents. I just haven't noticed a whole lot of Korean choosing subway-jumping for this purpose. People here seem to saying it, but I haven't noticed it myself. |
Well Mr. Reality posted this thread up last summer with stats from 2003:
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A study by Seoul Metropolitan Subway Corporation said 119 people fell or threw themselves onto subway tracks last year. Of these, 67 died and the others were seriously injured. Among the dead, 54 were suicides. |
A quick Google search turned up this article citing even higher figures. I don't know of any figures for 2005 so far, but there have been 22 suicides on the New York subway so far this year. |
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Kimchieluver

Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:59 am Post subject: |
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I thought apartment jumping was the way to go here. |
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